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Putin's War, Week 36. Russian Mobilization Ends, Ukrainian Commandos Strike Deep Inside Russia, and What the Heck Is Happening In Kherson?
Red State ^ | November 5, 2022 | Streiff

Posted on 11/05/2022 9:13:34 PM PDT by Timber Rattler

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To: Cronos

Not very bright, are ya?


81 posted on 11/07/2022 5:51:31 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is ████ █ ██████ ███████ ███ ██████ ██ ████████.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Off your meds again, I see.


82 posted on 11/07/2022 5:53:12 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is ████ █ ██████ ███████ ███ ██████ ██ ████████.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

You aren’t bright to repeat the lie about non existent promises made to Gorbachev.

Gorbachev himself denied the lies you posted.

E pluribus unum “(Gorbachev agreed on dismantling the eastern Soviet bloc on condition that we would not bring countries bordering Russia into NATO”

That’s a lie which even Gorbachev said was a lie and no such promise was made.

Why do you keep repeating a lie?

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/up-front/2014/11/06/did-nato-promise-not-to-enlarge-gorbachev-says-no/

The agreement on not deploying foreign troops on the territory of the former GDR was incorporated in Article 5 of the Treaty on the Final Settlement with Respect to Germany, which was signed on September 12, 1990 by the foreign ministers of the two Germanys, the United States, Soviet Union, Britain and France. Article 5 had three provisions:

1. Until Soviet forces had completed their withdrawal from the former GDR, only German territorial defense units not integrated into NATO would be deployed in that territory.
2. There would be no increase in the numbers of troops or equipment of U.S., British and French forces stationed in Berlin.
3. Once Soviet forces had withdrawn, German forces assigned to NATO could be deployed in the former GDR, but foreign forces and nuclear weapons systems would not be deployed there.

When one reads the full text of the Woerner speech http://nato.int/docu/speech/1990/s900517a_e.htm
cited by Putin, it is clear that the secretary general’s comments referred to NATO forces in eastern Germany, not a broader commitment not to enlarge the Alliance.

Here is a link to Gorbachev’s interview http://rbth.com/international/2014/10/16/mikhail_gorbachev_i_am_against_all_walls_40673.html

The interviewer asked why Gorbachev did not “insist that the promises made to you [Gorbachev]—particularly U.S. Secretary of State James Baker’s promise that NATO would not expand into the East—be legally encoded?” Gorbachev replied: “The topic of ‘NATO expansion’ was not discussed at all, and it wasn’t brought up in those years. … Another issue we brought up was discussed: making sure that NATO’s military structures would not advance and that additional armed forces would not be deployed on the territory of the then-GDR after German reunification. Baker’s statement was made in that context… Everything that could have been and needed to be done to solidify that political obligation was done. And fulfilled.”

Gorbachev continued that “The agreement on a final settlement with Germany said that no new military structures would be created in the eastern part of the country; no additional troops would be deployed; no weapons of mass destruction would be placed there. It has been obeyed all these years.”

There was mo promise made especially considering that in 1989 Gorbachev didn’t agree on “dismantling the eastern bloc” just about german reunification.

Why are you repeating lies?


83 posted on 11/07/2022 12:55:38 PM PST by Cronos (.)
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To: cranked

Translation is sometimes tricky: The English “special service” is in Russian translated to “спецслужба”, but that is intelligence service see https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%86%D1%81%D0%BB%D1%83%D0%B6%D0%B1%D0%B0

Here is a special service https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Services_(entertainment)


84 posted on 11/08/2022 6:13:11 AM PST by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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To: AdmSmith

One more war is all we need to finally win after 30 years of failure for fun and profit. This time it will be different. Not. Going. To. Happen. Under. Biden.


85 posted on 11/12/2022 2:54:10 PM PST by wildcard_redneck (Germans are bat-crap crazy for cold showers, high energy bills, and boiled turnips.)
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To: Cronos

He had you say so Cronos?


86 posted on 11/12/2022 2:55:00 PM PST by wildcard_redneck (Germans are bat-crap crazy for cold showers, high energy bills, and boiled turnips.)
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To: Timber Rattler
Zelensky port for Drain Snake, A.K.A. Biden Bottom Boy


87 posted on 11/12/2022 3:01:42 PM PST by wildcard_redneck (Germans are bat-crap crazy for cold showers, high energy bills, and boiled turnips.)
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To: wildcard_redneck

Yes. Putin has failed


88 posted on 11/12/2022 4:13:34 PM PST by Cronos (.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

E plurilies uno wrote on 6th November “Another couple of weeks ... begging for a peace deal with Russia “.

One week is hone and instead of begging, the Ukrainians are actually advancing. They took Kherson


89 posted on 11/14/2022 11:56:38 AM PST by Cronos (.)
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To: Cronos

Winter is coming, Skippy.


90 posted on 11/14/2022 12:25:07 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is ████ █ ██████ ███████ ███ ██████ ██ ████████.)
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To: hardspunned; AdmSmith

hard - if your agenda is peace, then you should want Putin gone and the Russians leaving Ukrainian territory.


91 posted on 11/14/2022 11:45:31 PM PST by Cronos (.)
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