Calls grow among prominent figures to create a new 'Church Committee' to probe FBI abuses (9/15)

just the news ^ | 9/15/2022 | John Solomon

[joshua c]

lying to the fisa court should be a hanging offense

no one has even been charged

[DIRTYSECRET]

Frank Church was a democrat when they just might have been honorable. Then there’s the Russian troops in Cuba he blew the whistle on. Mighta cost Carter the election.

[Stingray51]

No. End it.

[jacknhoo]

“Sorry, but the FBI, ATF, DEA, Ed Dept, Energy Dept, and a host of other federal bureaucracies need to be abolished; not reformed.”

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Bears repeating.

[hardspunned]

That would be great. I’m 100% sure the fine DC GOP truth seekers would straighten this right out. They could bring tried and true DC GOPers such as Barr, Graham, Rubio, Roberts, McCarthy, etc. No doubt this would be another cover up of crimes. Those agencies are no more able to be rehabilitated than the Gestapo or NKVD were. Tear them down and start over.

[upchuck]

Sorry, but the FBI, ATF, DEA, Ed Dept, Energy Dept, and a host of other federal bureaucracies need to be abolished; not reformed.

Agree 100%. Failing that (and to be realistic it will probably fail), any group formed to do this should NOT allow any politicians or agency members, current or former, to be a member.

If this suggestion is not followed it will be a complete sham and an awful waste of taxpayer dollars.

[Luke21]

The first one didn’t work. It was just like the Maxwell trial. All smoke and no fire.

[subterfuge]

Aaaaand the FBI has already infiltrated the Church group.

[Luke21]

You just hit a grand slam summarizing that worthless Church investigation. He used it to run for president and the media pretended the Democrats were piggybacking off Watergate to fight corruption.

It produced nothing, but the press still cites it.

[StAnDeliver]

I AM DEEPLY FLATTERED THANK YOU PLEASE CONTRIBUTE TO FREEREPUBLIC.COM.

"The knock-on affect is the Deep State directly attempting to de-legitimize the incoming 118th GOP Congress and the flood of investigations that will start in the first 100 days.

The first thing to do is establish the Church Committee II, a 3-year tribunal that will punish the politicization of the Deep State against half of this country, and more particularly against one man.

I say 3-year because the Church Committee II will release its report on the 50th Anniversary of the Church Committee in 2025, after Trump is re-elected, so that he may observe his enemies driven before him.

"In the need to develop a capacity to know what potential enemies are doing, the United States government has perfected a technological capability that enables us to monitor the messages that go through the air.

Now, that is necessary and important to the United States as we look abroad at enemies or potential enemies. We must know, at the same time, that capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left: such is the capability to monitor everything—telephone conversations, telegrams, it doesn't matter. There would be no place to hide.

If this government ever became a tyranny, if a dictator ever took charge in this country, the technological capacity that the intelligence community has given the government could enable it to impose total tyranny, and there would be no way to fight back because the most careful effort to combine together in resistance to the government, no matter how privately it was done, is within the reach of the government to know. Such is the capability of this technology.

I don't want to see this country ever go across the bridge. I know the capacity that is there to make tyranny total in America, and we must see to it that this agency and all agencies that possess this technology operate within the law and under proper supervision so that we never cross over that abyss. That is the abyss from which there is no return." -- Sen. Frank Church, Meet the Depressed, August 18, 1975

43 posted on 9/11/2022, 9:25:47 AM by StAnDeliver (Tanned, rested, and ready.)

[StAnDeliver]

All President Trump needs to do is put some context on it -- the unfortunately but repeated inflection periods in American history when the Fib has been re-revealed as completely and utterly corrupt:

• Hoover (and this would be a good one to pin on the Christopher Wray donkey)
• Church Committee review of Fib and inter-agency abuses which unveiled M0cking &ird (!), C0int @lpr0 and MK ^ltra
• Ruby Ridge and Waco and Richard Jewell (and don't forget Jewell testified before a House Committee and demanded a special investigation)
• Fib's SSG super-agent Hanssen, and his decades-long allegiance with the Russians, to the point of his classified info making its way to the 9/11 attackers

[Angelino97]

Indeed, the reform is to shutter the FBI. A national police force is a bad idea

The rationale for the FBI was the automobile.

Cars made it possible for bank robbers to cover long distances quickly, crossing state lines before local cops could catch them. Whereupon jurisdiction and extradition became problematic issues.

The response was Hoover's G-Men, who could cross state lines with impunity.

[Wallace T.]

How the worm has turned! Fifty years ago, liberal Democrats like Frank Church were denouncing the FBI and CIA for abuses and the conservatives of that era regarded the Congressional investigations as giving aid and comfort to the Communists. Now the Left has taken total control of these institutions and are defending the heirs of J. Edgar Hoover and Allen Dulles while conservatives want the FBI and CIA disbanded or at least severely restricted in their abilities to interfere in domestic politics.

[Howie66]

“Sorry, but the FBI, ATF, DEA, Ed Dept, Energy Dept, and a host of other federal bureaucracies need to be abolished; not reformed.”

I would add that there needs to be a complete and total removal of ALL Union activities from each and every level of Government (Taxpayer Funded) employment. That includes Local, State level and Federal. No exceptions. Those people in the Public Sector have no business at all belonging to any “labor” organization.

[cgbg]

“unveiled M0cking &ird (!), C0int @lpr0 and MK ^ltra”

Yup—and lets see what has happened with those...

Mockingbird—the intelligence community now has total control of the mass media and Big Tech—even worse than it was then

Cointelpro—the intelligence community has focused on creating fake right wing organizations, using agents provocateurs to get crimes committed, used the Internet to create dissension among right wing groups (and who knows what else we don’t know about...).

MKultra—See Mockingbird—turning the mass media and Big Tech into mass brainwashing operations (and who knows what else we don’t know about.

And...the NSA using Big Tech to spy on everybody all the time.

One step forward, ten steps back.

[Starboard]

Your point is well taken. The FBI, et al can rest easy knowing the extent of corruption and warped culture of DC. Lots of them live in glass houses.

[AnthonySoprano]

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Watch the Senate Hearing the day before they went to the Epstein Judge.

They think Chris Wray is a God.

They told him just pick a number for your Budget Increase - and I dare anyone to question it.

People need to be grounded in reality. The Republican Senate loves the FBi Management. They covered for them on Crossfire Hurricane, too.

The only three guys that have said anything - two are up for re-election right now, and one of those two campaigned with Pence when Pence said we need to get behind the FBi.

Reality

[The Duke]

"...sent to federal prison."

It's time to bring back the chain gang.