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To: GranTorino

I hear you. Please see one of my posts to secamend

One of the questions I have been routinely asked and fairly asked here in some of these mud fights is what I am doing to fight against the system

As I said I am disgusted but the entire system. There is question they the so called golden age of medicine was probably a little loose in terms of rules. Certainly early on with the explosion of new drugs a lot of docs got no show jobs. Wined. Dined. Travelled on junkets. That has been shut down as it is a problem. When the prospective payment system (aka medicare) came in the scam became how could docs keep their income when they were capped basically from the time a patient could be in a hospital or number of visits a year. It was ingenious government control.

The latest iteration on the last 10 years as been big systems employing docs. Or even insurance companies directly employing docs. The promise — don’t worry about running around. We will pay you great and give you work life balance. So they took security for liberty. Not realizing that as an employee you can now be told what to do.

Because I am independent, I can say to non-clinicians who are trying to jam BS down my throat I am sorry I am not going to do that. They can yell and scream but the cannot change things because by law I still have the ability to play the I am the licensed physician and my orders must be executed. I have been up the ass of pharmacists refusing to execute my orders and hospitals to the level of national leadership and state licensing boards.

I currently am professionaly interested son vertical integration from ICU to home. I have been saying for years take good care of the patient and all else takes care of itself. Including the insane metrics. In doing so I am building with other like minded docs nonemoloyed practices and it is starting to take some hold.

I am terrified of the next gen of doctors who are entitled lazy asses. The current crop of residents and fellows don’t want to work more than 8 hours. Are more interested in thinking they have a leadership voice with no foundation for it and believe DEI is more important than patient care.

If there are any younger docs out there reading this, or people who know younger docs let them know they can make a difference and a killing is they
don’t become part of the system. Shun employment. Keep your independence. That allows you to keep your autonomy.

And because of that automotive I don’t have to give drugs that are worthless and I gave write for things on my judgment that make a difference. It allows me to say no to remdesivir and IVM alike. Not because I have to toe a line but because I tried it and neither worked. If allowed me to listen and develop a protocol for my practice that also included D3 and zinc. It allowed me to get people to monoclonal when employees were being told send them home or admit

There are problems in medicine. There is no doubt that we, physicians, are a major part of the problem. But not all of us. Some of us are quietly implementing change. In plain sight bur under the radar. Until the time comes to make serious noise. But one has to have his or her ducks in line before taking that shot.

There is a lot of room to agree. But when I push back it’s not because I am some shill. It’s because I have been there, done it, tried it in terms of these meds, and observed it to be inferior to other things. It’s from experience not from being a employee told to toe the line

I hope you have a good morning.


326 posted on 09/02/2022 4:28:47 AM PDT by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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To: gas_dr

You are righteous, more than enough! All I knew vaguely from FR was that you were a stooge. Perhaps this was the local Q minions having a beef w you.

Today’s summary -— Don’t let the Lilliputians tie you down.


331 posted on 09/02/2022 6:00:20 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: gas_dr

Informative post.

My wife was in medical practice management and climic administration for decades. The impression i got was that being highly skilled in medicine made many physicians think they would naturally be good businessmen and most weren’t. Led them to become employed docs after near business failure.

Have another relation that makes big money advising healthcare groups how to straighten out their cash flow.


333 posted on 09/02/2022 6:10:01 AM PDT by KC Burke (If all the world is a stage, I would like to request my lighting be adjusted.)
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To: gas_dr
You should have posted this long ago.

It still doesn't explain why so many of those who back-handedly support the shots ("praising with faint damns") follow the approach of the Center for Countering Digital Hate, down to adapting the terminology and targets ("dirty dozen"/"disinformation dozen") and emphasize first, discrediting anyone opposed to the clotshots,

first by

a) insisting that ALL claims against the shots, are necessarily intertwined, so that accepting or considering any of the claims, necessarily means that one must believe all the most radical/ridiculous claims, such as 5G/mind control

b) trying to personally discredit all those opposed to the shots, either by citing odd personal beliefs, citing personal failed treatments, or any issues with accreditation / licensure / affiliation -- and acting that such ad hominem attacks, instead of serving only as a caution, NECESSARILY repudiate ALL of that person's claims and data in toto, now and forever.

c) insisting that those pushing against the clots are hacks getting rich off of it, while ignoring the tens of billions racked up by Pfizer/Moderna

...while ignoring the thumb on the scales of the Pfizer trials (honest companies do not have a track record of tens of billions in fines / penalties since, oh, call it the year 2000, and then turn around and try to have their internal safety studies on an novel technology sealed for 75 years), as well as the renewed push for Omicron shots (170 million doses ordered) which has only been tested on mice, not humans; and reportedly only on *EIGHT* mice.

If you'd give an honest explanation of the points above, in the same vein as your post this is replying too, you'd be a taken for a Pfauci-bot a LOT less.

349 posted on 09/02/2022 8:59:52 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: gas_dr; grey_whiskers
I communicated with gd early on during the Covid wars (on FR).

I explained, via Freepmail, why I was unvaccinated, and chose to be in spite of my age. I had good health, a robust immune system, nad was hesitant to be a guinea pig with a first generation vaccine.

He did not agree with me 100%, but shared that he considered my position to be a solid, and sane one. He also shared that if I got Covid, I should move directly to taking Monoclonals, and as quick as possible.

My wife and I got the Cv, ironically from our vaccinated kids, we both got the treatment. My symptoms were fairly mild the whole time (including before getting the anti-bodies). My symptoms were actually milder than the rest of my family, and there has been no visible long term effects for me.

I have been in disagreement with gd in a fair amount of areas, but have never seen him as a shill for anyone, simply as an earnest advocate.

My position is simple: Based on what I have read, the shot might be okay for some, particularly those at high risk. Other than that, my take is it hurts more people than it helps. In that, we disagree, but he has never been anything but civil to me, and helped me with a good plan for treatment prior to my getting covid. For that, I was thankful to him.

370 posted on 09/02/2022 2:44:23 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Trump. He stands for the great issues of the day. Stay the course!)
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To: gas_dr

Thanks for the detailed reply.
I agree about the younger new doctors.
I didn’t like the condescending answers I got from them. Many were downright rude and over defensive. All I wanted were answers.
Have a nice weekend.


372 posted on 09/02/2022 4:04:10 PM PDT by GranTorino (Bloody Lips Save Ships.)
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