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WTF? Scientists Have Recreated The Deadly Spanish Flu Of 1918 And Infected Monkeys — Here’s The 411
Clash Daily ^ | Written by K. Walker on August 18, 2022

Posted on 08/19/2022 6:50:37 AM PDT by Red Badger

Why would anyone do this?

In a piece titled, “Scientists Have Re-Created The Deadly 1918 Flu Virus. Why?” Forbes contributor Steven Salzberg examines what could possibly lead scientists to do this.

Salzberg begins by noting the intense controversy surrounding gain-of-function research after the COVID-19 pandemic that looks more and more likely to have its origins at the Wuhan Institute of Virology in China, which conducts this very sort of research on bat coronaviruses.

Despite the unmitigated hell we’ve been through for nearly three years now from the virus itself as we watched elderly or immunocompromised relatives succumb to it, to the COVIDictators that insist on trampling our rights, forcing our kids to bear the brunt of the restrictions with “virtual” school, and insisting that communism is the only way to “reset” the world, some Big Brains with biochem degrees have decided it’s a great idea to continue on this “gain-of-function” path and recreate a pathogen that wiped out tens of millions of people because… Science.

“In the latest news, a team of scientists in Canada and the U.S. report that they have re-created the 1918 influenza virus and used it to infect macaques,” says Salzberg. “Let’s be clear here: the 1918 flu vanished from the Earth, long ago. It’s simply not a threat, or it least it wasn’t, until someone figured out a way to bring it back.”

Gee, thanks, Big Brains!

He begins with a bit of history of the pandemic that hit right after World War I noting that it infected approximately 1/3 of the world population at the time, killing upwards of 50 million people. It is regarded as the worst plague since the Black Death in the 14th century.

Salzberg doesn’t mention this in his article, but the thing about the Spanish Flu was that it was unlike other flu viruses that are more deadly to the very young and the very old — this one had an unusually high mortality rate among young adults.

The SARS-CoV-2 virus was also somewhat unusual in that it was very little threat to the young, but the vast majority of deaths have been in elderly patients who are already susceptible to other respiratory viruses.

Comparisons to the 1918 Flu and COVID-19 have been around since early 2020, but it was often in a comforting way — “At least it’s not the Spanish Flu!”

Were the public health officials upset that SARS-CoV-2 was “disproportionally affecting” elderly people and wanted to make sure that there was mortality “equity” among younger age groups? Someone cynical might think that, but no… it’s much worse than that. They did it just because they could.

Back to the Big Brains who start out with research that sounds like a prequel to The Walking Dead…

ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO, A SMALL TEAM OF RESEARCHERS LED BY JEFFERY TAUBENBERGER AND ANN REID FIGURED OUT HOW TO SEQUENCE THE GENOME OF THE 1918 FLU. IN A SERIES OF PAPERS SPREAD OVER SIX YEARS, THEY DESCRIBED HOW THEY RECOVERED PIECES OF THE FLU VIRUS FROM HUMAN SAMPLES THAT HAD BEEN FROZEN FOR NEARLY 100 YEARS, INCLUDING CORPSES BURIED IN THE PERMAFROST OF SIBERIA AND ALASKA. IN 2005, THEY REPORTED THE COMPLETE SEQUENCE IN THE JOURNAL NATURE. THEIR MAIN DISCOVERY WAS THAT THE 1918 FLU HAD ORIGINALLY BEEN A BIRD FLU, WHICH JUMPED INTO HUMANS SOMETIME BEFORE 1918. TAUBENBERGER AND OTHERS, INCLUDING ADOLFO GARCIA-SASTRE AT MT. SINAI SCHOOL OF MEDICINE, ALSO RE-CONSTRUCTED LIVE VIRUSES AND TESTED THEM ON MICE, THAT SAME YEAR. NOT SURPRISINGLY, THE MICE DIED.

IT DIDN’T TAKE LONG BEFORE GAIN-OF-FUNCTION RESEARCHERS SAID “HEY, WHY DON’T WE RECONSTRUCT THE FLU VIRUS AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS IN PRIMATES?” THE TOOLS OF MODERN GENETICS MAKE IT POSSIBLE TO RECONSTRUCT A VIRUS FROM SCRATCH, USING JUST THE SEQUENCE.

IN 2007, ONLY TWO YEARS AFTER THE 1918 FLU SEQUENCE WAS COMPLETELY DECODED, INFLUENZA RESEARCHER YOSHIHIRO KAWAOKA AT THE UNIVERSITY OF TOKYO AND THE UNIVERSITY OF WISCONSIN DESCRIBED, IN A PAPER IN NATURE, HOW HE AND HIS COLLEAGUES USED THE SEQUENCE TO CREATE LIVE, INFECTIOUS 1918 FLU VIRUSES. TO TEST THEM ON MORE HUMAN-LIKE SUBJECTS, THEY INFECTED 7 MACAQUES WITH THEM. NOT SURPRISINGLY, THE MACAQUES GOT SEVERELY ILL, AND THE SCIENTISTS EVENTUALLY EUTHANIZED ALL OF THEM.

We could have had another outbreak of the Spanish Flu in 2007, and thank God, we didn’t! No thanks to these geniuses.

But the Big Brains couldn’t just leave it at that, could they?

No, they had to do it all again — you know, just to make sure that their findings were right.

IN THE NEW PAPER, A TEAM OF RESEARCHERS AT THE PUBLIC HEALTH AGENCY OF CANADA, THE UNIVERSITY OF MANITOBA, AND OREGON HEALTH & SCIENCE UNIVERSITY RE-CREATED THE 1918 FLU VIRUS AGAIN, AND INFECTED 15 MACAQUES. THIS TIME THEY USED MORE REALISTIC DOSES, AND THE MACAQUES DIDN’T GET SO SICK, SUFFERING ONLY “MILD” OR “MODERATE” DISEASE. MAYBE MACAQUES “ARE NOT IDEAL FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AND TESTING OF NOVEL PANDEMIC INFLUENZA-SPECIFIC VACCINES AND THERAPIES,” THEY CONCLUDED.

SO LET’S REVIEW: FLU SCIENTISTS HAVE BEEN USING THE SEQUENCE OF A LONG-VANISHED, EXTREMELY DEADLY VIRUS TO RECONSTITUTE THE VIRUS AND INFECT ANIMALS, AND THEN OBSERVE HOW SICK THEY GET. (KAWAOKA DID IT A SECOND TIME, IN A STUDY PUBLISHED IN 2019.)

WHY DO THEY DO IT? ALL OF THE PAPERS GIVE ESSENTIALLY THE SAME REASON: THESE EXPERIMENTS, THEY SAY, WILL HELP US DEVELOP ANIMAL MODELS IN WHICH WE CAN TEST VACCINES. THESE SAME JUSTIFICATIONS HAVE BEEN USED FOR DECADES, BUT FLU VACCINES HAVEN’T IMPROVED ONE WHIT, AS FAR AS I CAN TELL.

Salzberg makes the point that the stated reason for the need for gain-of-function research is always the same — to help develop vaccines.

But why create a vaccine for a strain of flu that is no longer a threat?

“The 1918 flu disappeared long ago, and there’s no way it could possibly re-appear naturally. There’s only one way that the 1918 flu becomes a threat to human health again: through a lab leak,” writes Salzberg. “Re-creating the virus in a lab makes that possible.”

Exactly.

There is still the question about the origin of the SARS-CoV-2 virus and whether or not it leaked from a lab, and because of the stonewalling by China, we may never know for certain.

It seems likely that the place that was conducting bat coronavirus research and wasn’t exactly known for being particularly careful in their practices when collecting samples might have had a lab leak. And investigations into the “wet market” hasn’t found a single host animal that the virus could have jumped to humans from.

Even if it was natural in origin, the entire premise of gain-of-function seems to be to predict which viruses could spread and learn how to create vaccines for them… which increases the likelihood of an outbreak of something that could be incredibly deadly.

Salzberg makes a great point near the end of his article:

MOST OF THE RECENT CONTROVERSY OVER GAIN-OF-FUNCTION RESEARCH HAS FOCUSED ON RESEARCH THAT MAKES VIRUSES MORE DEADLY. I HOPE IT’S CLEAR THAT RE-CREATING A DEADLY VIRUS FROM SCRATCH IS ANOTHER FORM OF GAIN-OF-FUNCTION RESEARCH, ONE THAT CARRIES EQUALLY GREAT RISKS WITH LITTLE OR NO POTENTIAL BENEFIT. WE SHOULD PUT A HALT TO BOTH TYPES OF WORK. (EMPHASIS ADDED)

People need to tell these researchers, “Just because you can do something, it doesn’t mean that you should do it.”

Stop the madness.

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K. Walker

ClashDaily's Associate Editor since August 2016.

Self-described political junkie, anti-Third Wave Feminist, and a nightmare to the 'intersectional' crowd. Mrs. Walker has taken a stand against 'white privilege' education in public schools. She's also an amateur Playwright, former Drama teacher, and staunch defender of the Oxford comma. Follow her humble musings on Twitter: @TheMrsKnowItAll and on Gettr @KarenWalker


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To: Red Badger

They do this stuff because they CAN. ThHy are all living on NSF and chasing other grant dollars... so it pays to ‘research’ whether or not the project matters.


41 posted on 08/19/2022 7:52:42 AM PDT by SMARTY (“Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face.” Thomas Sowell)
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To: Red Badger
"Scientists Have Recreated The Deadly Spanish Flu Of 1918 And Infected Monkeys..."

They're not really dropping supplies:


42 posted on 08/19/2022 7:55:39 AM PDT by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest )
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To: SharpenedEdge

Psalm 91:3 NIV
Surely he will save you from the fowler’s snare and from the deadly pestilence.

Habakkuk’s Prayer
3 A prayer of Habakkuk the prophet. On shigionoth.[a]

2 Lord, I have heard of your fame;
I stand in awe of your deeds, Lord.
Repeat them in our day,
in our time make them known;
in wrath remember mercy.

3 God came from Teman,
the Holy One from Mount Paran.[b]
His glory covered the heavens
and his praise filled the earth.
4 His splendor was like the sunrise;
rays flashed from his hand,
where his power was hidden.
5 Plague went before him;
pestilence followed his steps.
6 He stood, and shook the earth;
he looked, and made the nations tremble.
The ancient mountains crumbled
and the age-old hills collapsed—
but he marches on forever.
7 I saw the tents of Cushan in distress,
the dwellings of Midian in anguish.

8 Were you angry with the rivers, Lord?
Was your wrath against the streams?
Did you rage against the sea
when you rode your horses
and your chariots to victory?
9 You uncovered your bow,
you called for many arrows.
You split the earth with rivers;
10 the mountains saw you and writhed.
Torrents of water swept by;
the deep roared
and lifted its waves on high.

11 Sun and moon stood still in the heavens
at the glint of your flying arrows,
at the lightning of your flashing spear.
12 In wrath you strode through the earth
and in anger you threshed the nations.
13 You came out to deliver your people,
to save your anointed one.
You crushed the leader of the land of wickedness,
you stripped him from head to foot.
14 With his own spear you pierced his head
when his warriors stormed out to scatter us,
gloating as though about to devour
the wretched who were in hiding.
15 You trampled the sea with your horses,
churning the great waters.

16 I heard and my heart pounded,
my lips quivered at the sound;
decay crept into my bones,
and my legs trembled.
Yet I will wait patiently for the day of calamity
to come on the nation invading us.
17 Though the fig tree does not bud
and there are no grapes on the vines,
though the olive crop fails
and the fields produce no food,
though there are no sheep in the pen
and no cattle in the stalls,
18 yet I will rejoice in the Lord,
I will be joyful in God my Savior.

19 The Sovereign Lord is my strength;
he makes my feet like the feet of a deer,
he enables me to tread on the heights.

For the director of music. On my stringed instruments.

Footnotes
Habakkuk 3:1 Probably a literary or musical term
Habakkuk 3:3 The Hebrew has Selah (a word of uncertain meaning) here and at the middle of verse 9 and at the end of verse 13.


43 posted on 08/19/2022 7:58:26 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: PLMerite

what movie?...................


44 posted on 08/19/2022 8:03:42 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger

Why is not the question. It’s why not. The answer is a lack of ethics. That tends to be rooted in nihilism and casual post modernism. I write casual because these scientists are not schooled in either. They are so focused on “the science” that they have neglected a basic education, exploration and understanding of things greater than man; namely God.


45 posted on 08/19/2022 8:08:56 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA ( Scratch a leftist and you'll find a fascist )
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To: Red Badger

I think that’s the opening scene of outbreak - no positive, but that’s a Blu-82 Daisey Cutter


46 posted on 08/19/2022 8:10:37 AM PDT by DocRock
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To: Jane Long

So-called monkeypox outbreak.


47 posted on 08/19/2022 8:11:30 AM PDT by mewzilla (We need to repeal RCV wherever it's in use and go back to dumb voting machines.)
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To: Red Badger

God is still in control!
Believe it!


48 posted on 08/19/2022 8:15:20 AM PDT by RebelTXRose (Our Lady of Fatima, Pray for us! PRAY THE ROSARY!)
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To: mewzilla

😉


49 posted on 08/19/2022 8:15:55 AM PDT by Jane Long (What we were told was a “conspiracy theory” in 2020 is now fact. 🙏🏻 Ps 33:12)
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To: Red Badger

Outbreak (1995?). Dustin Hoffman, etc. Decent.


50 posted on 08/19/2022 8:16:06 AM PDT by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest )
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To: ConservativeInPA

They see the virus as a ‘building block’, like an Erector Set or Tinker Toy.

Their goal id a Nobel Prize.

The consequences be damned..........................


51 posted on 08/19/2022 8:17:12 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger; 2ndreconmarine; Fitzcarraldo; Covenantor; Mother Abigail; EBH; Dog Gone; ...
Red Badger :" “In the latest news, a team of scientists in Canada and the U.S. report that they have re-created the 1918 influenza virus
and used it to infect macaques,” says Salzberg.
“Let’s be clear here: the 1918 flu vanished from the Earth, long ago.
It’s simply not a threat, or it least it wasn’t, until someone figured out a way to bring it back.”

"Gee, thanks, Big Brains! "

EXACTLY TRUE !
WHY ???
Don't let Fauxi anywhere near it,
especially now that the CDC admits lying, ignoring adverse conditions and outright falsehoods, and making things up !

52 posted on 08/19/2022 8:17:23 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: Red Badger

Amen, amen!!


53 posted on 08/19/2022 8:19:01 AM PDT by Jane Long (What we were told was a “conspiracy theory” in 2020 is now fact. 🙏🏻 Ps 33:12)
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To: Red Badger

God is still in control!
Believe it!


54 posted on 08/19/2022 8:22:49 AM PDT by RebelTXRose (Our Lady of Fatima, Pray for us! PRAY THE ROSARY!)
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To: Red Badger

What’s even more remarkable about the 1918 flu, say infectious disease experts, is that it never really went away. After infecting an estimated 500 million people worldwide in 1918 and 1919 (a third of the global population), the H1N1 strain that caused the Spanish flu receded into the background and stuck around as the regular seasonal flu.

https://www.history.com/news/1918-flu-pandemic-never-ended#:~:text=After%20infecting%20an%20estimated%20500,as%20the%20regular%20seasonal%20flu.


55 posted on 08/19/2022 8:23:52 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: DugwayDuke

They never really go away they just evolve into something highly infectious but benign. The line has a hard time continuing if one of its features is kill the carrier.


56 posted on 08/19/2022 8:29:24 AM PDT by Reily
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To: MD Expat in PA

IIRC, cytokine storm. The younger an adult they were the more intense the reaction.


57 posted on 08/19/2022 8:37:42 AM PDT by curious7
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To: curious7

Yep. Their immune system went into hyper drive and in 24 to 36 hours later after their first symptoms, their lungs filled with fluid and they drowned. A bacterial infection typically doesn’t happen that fast.


58 posted on 08/19/2022 8:42:05 AM PDT by MD Expat in PA (No. I am not a doctor nor have I ever played one on TV. The MD in my screen name stands for Maryland)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

...the Swine Flu of 1976 was supposed to be the Spanish Flu reborn. It was a dud.

_________________________________________________

If your parents survived the 1918 epidemic, would their natural immunity be passed on? Grandparents?

Early in the C19 hoax, an epidemiologist stated that over 80% of all Americans carried a natural immunity to coronavirus of many different strains. even with a *new variant*, natural immunity to a previous strain would be able to provoke a cross-immunity.

More fear porn, IMO.


59 posted on 08/19/2022 8:52:51 AM PDT by reformedliberal (Make yourself less available.)
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To: Babwa

...the resultant bacterial pneumonia...
__________________________________
Exacerbated, if not primarily caused, by mask-wearing.


60 posted on 08/19/2022 8:55:12 AM PDT by reformedliberal (Make yourself less available.)
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