Posted on 06/30/2022 8:39:58 PM PDT by bitt
First thing I want to say is that so far, other than those two sites I posted no one has said anything about this incident. I am waiting for more confirmation.
But, I will share my take on it that I privately sent to another freeper.
“First, absolutely the Pentagon and the CIA are not on the same playbook.
Second, there is no way Mi6 did this without the knowledge and approval of the CIA
And, yes, the Pentagon; but not the CIA, did work through General Z....they were making military strategy. That’s not the Spooks job...:-)
So this morning the Pentagon will be pissed as hell; but still powerless because they are NOT in the policy making loop.
So now what are the repercussions to this? If General Z did not feel he had the power to stage a coup, it is hard to think those under him would. So it seems likely that the Ukrainian military will fall in line and do exactly what they are ordered.
BTW, just as an aside...one of the insider posts from a few days ago related the telephone fight between Z and Z, then ended it by saying he would follow Zelensky’s orders and then according to the OP insider the General said he was just going to privately retreat his troops. And he must have to some degree because they started making a beeline to get the hell out of Sever......:-)
As another aside, according to that same insider OP source Zelensky made it clear he would eventually be firing General Z or trying him for crimes for not providing the proper gear for the troops which of course was BS because it was the OP office that STOLE all the gear the West provided and then sold it. General Z got Zelensky in a lot of trouble by telling the Pentagon about all of this and Zelensky was determined he would pay.”
So we wait to see if that report was accurate; but based on the known situation between Z and Z it certainly could be.
“Absolute power corrupts absolutely”
Thanks
So the speculation is some shadowy “they” blew those two away over a disagreement over what to do about Snake Island now that the Russians have withdrawn? Could be. Wars can be so strange. Is it a big deal? Nah, probably not.
If this actually happened, it could be for any number of reasons. Stuff like this was going on in Ukraine well *before* the war (car bombs, grenades thrown into cars, assassinations by various means). It used to happen a lot in the 90s in Russia, too, back during the mafia wars when the oligarchs were jockeying for power.
JOE AND HUNTER BIDEN set up a massive black-site biological network in Ukraine.
Has Russia bombed any of the buildings?.
I don’t really know why Ukraine is so important to the Biden family (this biological weapons story seems just a bit sketchy). But it is really very clear from the actions and statements of Joe Biden that the war in Ukraine is more important than the American economy. It’s a really strange thing, and very few people seem to notice it or be concerned by it. Obviously, Freepers are excluded from that, as we know that something is really, really wrong here.
Re: “... and yet has the media even mentioned this? And this includes the video’d torture and execution of several Russian POWs.”
Of course not. Did the media ever mention how the Butchers of Benghazi hung those poor black guys from meat hooks in the town center at the very beginning? No. They breathlessly reported the terrorists’ tweets about how Gadaffi’s horrible black mercenaries were all set to wreak ghastly horrors upon the sweet innocent people of Libya.
As it turned out, there were these six black factory security guards (mall cop types) the terrorists had rounded up, tied their hands behind their backs, tortured them, and hopefully killed them before the got the meat hook treatment. Nice way to display their bodies, no? You could read about it in the French team’s report and some other reports by international agencies. But the media? No way.
And don’t get me started about the media re former Yugoslavia.
I don’t pay any attention to the Q thread. When they wander out of their pen, they’re fair game.
Why are you binging Victoria Neuland into it? I never mentioned her.
On March 8th 2022 in her testimony she said, “uh, Ukraine has, uh, biological research facilities.”
She really should’ve said “Well, DUH”. Because it wasn’t even a secret. Ukraine has loads of biolabs. Many were built during the Cold War, some of them were set up by US research institutes, and several others are commercial ones set up by Big Pharma.
The EU has documents from 2012 that describe in detail the US Defense Threat Reduction Agency activities via biolabs in Ukraine. It really isn’t the massive secret that Rubio and Q thought it ought to be.
The issue is not that she confirmed the existence of biolabs that literally everybody working in the bioresearch fields already knew were there, it was that she said America is:
“... working with the Ukrainians on how they can prevent any of those research materials from falling into the hands of Russian forces.”
Because that can be interpreted to mean, those labs were actively holding stuff that other labs wouldn’t, and are doing something with that stuff that most other labs wouldn’t dare.
An equally plausible explanation is, dangerous stuff is found in probably half of the world’s biolabs and has been for as long as biolabs have been around - this REALLY is a “Bears shit in the woods, who knew!” level revelation.
Example:
One of the most common bioweapons on the planet is anthrax. Russia has had recurring problems with its containment.
For example, they had a leak of anthrax from a 1940s-built biolab that killed 66 people in Sverdlovsk, 2 April 1979 - the leak came from a facility that actually still exists, but is now known as the 48th Central Scientific Research Institute, Yekaterinburg.
Of course, Russia is rather cavalier about such stuff - in 2018 it was confirmed that not only do they still do some exotic testing on anthrax, but even better than that, they do OPEN AIR testing with it. At the same facility where a prior anthrax leak killed dozens.
A more recent anthrax outbreak in Siberia (Yamal Peninsula) was attributed to melting permafrost. That is very plausible - but what’s ALSO plausible is, Russia has admitted to having approx. 7,000 sites where they’ve simply stuffed evidence of anthrax outbreaks under the ground. If nobody knows how many of those outbreaks are naturally occurring or as the direct result of open air testing / lab compromise, how would even Russia know which is which?
The answer to that is, Ukraine’s and other biolabs have had Russian anthrax in them for a couple of decades and many of them still hold dozens of samples of it to this day. Why? Because Putin’s Russia knows that Soviet Russia was its own worst enemy.
Soviet Russia’s immediate solution to an Anthrax outbreak (or any other man-made disaster) always is, put up a media blackout and bury the evidence. With Russia now on a crusade to party like it’s still pre-1991, they’re returning to that state of mind.
While politicians and generals would scrabble around trying to make sure nobody in the Kremlin loses face in the event of a potential PR disaster, scientists and other level heads would collect samples which are sent to far away biolabs just in case.
So the presence of anthrax in dozens of labs in and around Russia (including in the ex-SSRs, and Ukraine) isn’t conspiracy, it’s an example of wise precautions.
When Russia starts being really open about what’s in those 7000 anthrax burial sites, and when it can prove that the 48th CSRI really is just doing antibiotics research and storing dangerous pathogens ONLY for research purposes, that’s the time it can start speculating about what America really was doing in the Ukrainian biolabs.
You ACCUSED her of being Q follower.
Agree with Clandestine.
The Biden Mafia is the whole reason for this war in Ukraine.
Their nefarious dealings had to be covered up.
TG that Putin would not play their game.
Go on with your mockery.
You soon will be eating crow.
Do you want fries with that?
We only serve Qurly fries.
I think itâÂÂs a long play but Ukraine is super important to the deep state and we all know why
Good to see you here, Cathi.
Your posts are always very thought-provoking and informative.
“You soon will be eating crow.”
Y’all been eating crow for ages now.
“We only serve Qurly fries.”
I think you mean sQuirrelly fries. 😄
NWO/WEF...do people not see the vast similarities between the WEF agenda and Biden’s agenda??? Wake up, people before its too late!
Have still not found a confirmation for the two General Z’s car bombed posts from 12 hrs. ago, but this post on a pro-Russian site spells out again just how much animosity there is/was between the Zs. Ever since the scandal where the troops went to the media saying they have no protective equipment and Zelensky responded by blaming General Z (though the reality is that the OP had sold the protective equipment the West had sent) their relationship has been headed for a crash.
The last blow-up was over Zelensky’s “suicide mission” to land troops on Snake Island to plant the flag and get Zelensky the victory he thinks he needs to keep the money and weapons coming from the West.
Just a couple hours ago these two posts appeared on a pro-Ukrainian site and a pro-Russian site
First on the Ukraine channel that shows the big map and gives you the highlights for the Ukrainians, there was this:
Russian jets dropped incendiary bombs on Zmiiny island today together with a video which showed Russian plane dropping some incendiary element on the island.
Then later on a pro-Russian site there was this
IL RUSSO 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺
🧨Today at lunchtime, the Odessa Separate Special Purpose Brigade did not last even an hour after landing on Snake Island.
The tactical task is 100% completed. Most of the 200s, the rest of the 300s and prisoners
WarDonbass
Ukrainian sources report that, having failed to get an order from the clown for an organized retreat from Lysichansk at the morning meeting in the Ze-Office, Zaluzhny issued an unspoken order to retreat from the city. Since the route to Seversk is under the fire control of the Russian Army, Bandera began an independent retreat from their positions through country roads in small groups, destroying or simply abandoning heavy equipment.
Zaluzhny, through LOMs who sympathize with him, organizes leaks of information to the network that Zelensky’s inadequacy “created a second Mariupol with a large number of victims and prisoners.” @WarDonbass
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BUMP!
The War of the ZZZ’s.
I love it!
But so much disinfo! Oy!
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