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Democrats clash over return to office as NYC cubicles sit vacant
Politico ^ | May 4, 2022 | ERIN DURKIN

Posted on 05/04/2022 10:25:02 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican

NEW YORK — It was February, the Omicron surge was abating and Mayor Eric Adams was telling New Yorkers, “The best thing we can do to deal with Covid is get back to work.” But the city’s public advocate, a fellow Democrat who’s running for governor, offered a different prescription for managing the pandemic and reviving the local economy.

“As Covid-19 cases thankfully drop across New York,” Public Advocate Jumaane Williams said, “the way forward is to forge a new normal, in line with the science and with the needs of New Yorkers, with an eye toward the future for both the risk of new surges and the potential for a new transformative economy that centers on working people.”

Since then, the intraparty divide has continued. Moderate Democratic leaders such as Adams and Gov. Kathy Hochul are pushing for a more robust return to the office that they say is crucial for the city’s economic recovery, while Democrats to their left argue they should accept that many workers prefer to be remote for the long haul, and New York City’s economy should adapt accordingly.

The split means there’s no shared vision for the post-pandemic future of the nation’s largest metropolis, whose office workers have returned at a slower rate than in most other big cities in the U.S. CEOs in Manhattan are cobbling together their own approaches, many leaving once-overflowing office suites nearly empty — caving to workers who’ve come to love the work-from-home life.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: home; labor; newyork; wfh; work
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1 posted on 05/04/2022 10:25:02 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

Rush predicted this. People would discover no need to live or work in NYC and deal with crime and high rents, etc.


2 posted on 05/04/2022 10:29:46 PM PDT by matt04 ( )
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To: matt04

The tax base is crashing. So the dems will raise them more. That should work...


3 posted on 05/04/2022 10:34:57 PM PDT by HYPOCRACY (This is the dystopian future we've been waiting for!)
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Here is an idea: Convert a lot of those office buildings into condos, make more housing so the price of housing in the city overall can go down, so now people can work from home AND people can afford to live there AND these buildings are not abandoned


4 posted on 05/04/2022 10:40:53 PM PDT by captain_jonas
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To: MinorityRepublican

How will they blame Trump for this?


5 posted on 05/04/2022 10:54:15 PM PDT by pnut22
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To: MinorityRepublican

Get rid of cubicles and go with an open office plan.


6 posted on 05/04/2022 11:09:52 PM PDT by Lisbon1940 (I don’t see why they would)
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To: captain_jonas
Here is an idea: Convert a lot of those office buildings into condos, make more housing so the price of housing in the city overall can go down, so now people can work from home AND people can afford to live there AND these buildings are not abandoned

Too rational for a Democrat to wrap its mind around.   winking face

7 posted on 05/04/2022 11:13:23 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Lisbon1940

>Get rid of cubicles and go with an open office plan.

Are you out of your mind?! EVERYTHING in the last 15 years has been open office, if anything cubicles need to come back. People worked better when they had a sense of privacy, with open office your next door snooty Karen co-worker will look at you at all times to find even the tiniest thing to complain about


8 posted on 05/04/2022 11:13:56 PM PDT by captain_jonas
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To: MinorityRepublican

Three weeks ago after 2 years away I returned to the office one day a week.

One day a week in the office—see a few people in person for one-on-one meetings, get my favorite burrito I missed—together with 4 days at home is a perfect balance. One day a week in the office breaks up the monotony of 5 days of working from home.


9 posted on 05/04/2022 11:33:36 PM PDT by olivia3boys
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To: captain_jonas


Convert a lot of those office buildings into condos

have you priced renovating an existing kitchen? can you imagine the cost in an office space with no plumbing, in nyc?

and when you're done, what do you have? an expensive, makeshift apartment in a dying city.


10 posted on 05/04/2022 11:46:16 PM PDT by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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>and when you’re done, what do you have? an expensive, makeshift apartment in a dying city.

Did you not read my post? The whole point of those conversions is to save the city


11 posted on 05/04/2022 11:52:25 PM PDT by captain_jonas
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The whole point of those conversions is to save the city

sorry!

I thought the whole point of these conversions is to face the facts.


12 posted on 05/04/2022 11:59:44 PM PDT by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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To: Lisbon1940
Get rid of cubicles and go with an open office plan.

The "open office plan" is the number one reason that 80%-plus of the office workforce doesn't want to return to the offices.

It's a barnyard atmosphere, hostile by design, with noise and distraction non-stop.

If we have the technology for people to work from home or a home office, as was demonstrated for the past two years, there's no reason to waste all that real estate.

13 posted on 05/05/2022 12:07:09 AM PDT by meadsjn (, )
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To: 867V309

Sure renovating a kitchen is expensive but we are still building within the confines of an existing building, not building an entire structure from scratch


14 posted on 05/05/2022 12:09:08 AM PDT by captain_jonas
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To: captain_jonas


that makes no sense.

are you a bot?


15 posted on 05/05/2022 12:13:11 AM PDT by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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To: MinorityRepublican

It wouldn’t bother me if NYC collapsed inward on itself and disappeared from the face of the earth. What a blight.


16 posted on 05/05/2022 12:20:38 AM PDT by Newtoidaho (All I ask of living is to have no chains on me.)
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To: Newtoidaho

The problem is that if NYC collapsed then all the people would disperse and cause destruction wherever they may go.


17 posted on 05/05/2022 12:33:04 AM PDT by 98charlie
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To: matt04

Same for San Francisco.

Just had a recruiter ask me if I was interested in a particular job.

As soon as they said the office was next to the Transamerica building I ended the conversation.

There are more crazies screaming at the sky, in the financial district, than I care to get near...


18 posted on 05/05/2022 12:46:48 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: 867V309

Sorry I didn’t realize English wasn’t your primary language


19 posted on 05/05/2022 1:09:04 AM PDT by captain_jonas
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To: MinorityRepublican

Like it or not working from home is going to increasingly be the norm from now on. There are a lot of good aspects of this. It eases congestion, saves time, saves fuel and makes workers less subject to office politics. It will be great for smaller cities and small towns.

For the restaurants and other businesses that depend on office commuters its a disaster. For commercial real estate it will be a disaster and for expensive big cities like New York and San Francisco it will be a death knell.

If you can live in the exurbs or a small town, still get the same salary (which will go farther), and have to put up with less traffic, less noise, less pollution and less crime...why the hell wouldn’t you? Do you really want to live in a little concrete box in the sky when you could have a nice ranch house on a half acre lot with plenty of room to garden or for your dogs and/or have a deck to relax on and do some grilling?

psssst, Democrats are utterly dependent on big cities. As this bites into them and strengthens small towns and the countryside........


20 posted on 05/05/2022 2:15:22 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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