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ZELENSKYY CALLS FOR WORLD WAR III!!!
Rumble ^ | 3/16/22 | Dr. Steve Turley

Posted on 03/16/2022 2:14:18 PM PDT by Impala64ssa

Ukrainian President Volodimir Zelenskyy is calling for nothing less than World War III, and our feckless incompetent Republican leaders look like they’re ready to give it to him!


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To: Impala64ssa

WWIII will not happen unless the elites see Ukraine consecration occuring as a result of this war. The elites do not want adult nations.


141 posted on 03/16/2022 4:33:56 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security in hates:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: libertarian66

Absolute rubbish. Ukraine never “had” nukes, some were on its territory.
***By 99% of the population’s reckoning, that fits within the definition of “having” them. If they STILL had them, Russia never woulda invaded. Or do you dispute that simple hypothetical?

All created, maintained and controlled BY RUSSIA, the leader of the Soviet Union.
***Uhh, no. The disintegration of the USSR was so rapid that they left nukes behind in Ukraine. That’s why the agreement was even necessary.

By far the most dominant leadership of the USSR.
***This phrase/sentence does not make sense.

Ukraine never had any opportunity to have nuclear weapons whatsoever.
***The nukes had weapons grade fissionable material. They had guidance systems, rocket systems, all kinds of retreivable technology. Once a person with just a 3rd year physics level of understanding has access, designing the bomb is quick.
https://www.amazon.com/Mushroom-bomb-John-Aristotle-Phillips/dp/0688033512

It didn’t “make a choice to give up nukes” because those nukes weren’t theirs to begin with.
***You obviously have not read the agreement.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum_on_Security_Assurances
What ELSE have ya got wrong?

Security assurances my rear end.
***We SIGNED it. So did the Russians. And the Ukes. The Ukes HONORED it. The Russians violated it — twice. We have already sold them down the river and abrogated the agreement.

They couldn’t bargain anything got the nukes since THEY DIDNT OWN THEM to begin with.
***They were ABANDONED on Uke property. So they DID own those nukes.

All such agreements are trash made to quietly get Ykrankan madmen to return property that would have otherwise been taken by Russian invasion.
***Russians invaded anyways. Or do you dispute THAT little tidbit of factuality as well?


142 posted on 03/16/2022 4:34:36 PM PDT by Kevmo (Give back Ukes their Nukes https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4044080/posts)
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To: bagster

I’ve been observing Social Media now for a few weeks.

Been seeing the so-called “proof”.

It’s all made up by various people than people Retweet, Retruth, or post here.

It’s noteworthy the Bio Labs drama is fading.

It also interesting the former combat vets from the U.S., Canada, and the U.K. Are now in country and beginning to report the truth without filters or propaganda.

They are confirming Russian Aggression, battle scenes and civilians suffering.


143 posted on 03/16/2022 4:40:56 PM PDT by David Chase
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To: Kevmo

Dude I’ve already destroyed you in multiple posts before. Give it up. You don’t know what “99 percent of the population thinks”, and it doesn’t matter - only facts matter. They never had nukes. They never will. We owe them nothing. Our interest matter, Ukraine’s are nothing. Let them save themselves or die trying.


144 posted on 03/16/2022 4:42:33 PM PDT by libertarian66
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To: bagster

BTW, I still love ya bro.

I wish you’d quite blaming the Deep State for everything.

That attitude puts you against your own country, countrymen.


145 posted on 03/16/2022 4:43:03 PM PDT by David Chase
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To: JimRed

Exactly. No good guys and it’s not our fight.

Very sad to see all the people dying in Ukraine though. Is the Red Cross or some other outfit there with food and med supplies? I might donate to that.


146 posted on 03/16/2022 4:43:06 PM PDT by Veto! (Political Correctness offends me)
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To: Impala64ssa

Zelenskyy knows why Ukraine isn’t and never was going to be allowed to join NATO (it would never be viable while the Putin regime remains in power). But nobody ever starts a negotiation from the point of arguing for the bare minimum, ESPECIALLY NOT when dealing with an invader whose invasion plans have been known about for over six months, and who can’t even honour a 4 hour ceasefire without shelling refugees in the humanitarian corridor let alone abide by any non-aggression treaty.

Read between the lines of last year’s ultimatums from Moscow.

Putin was effectively demanding (a) a veto on who gets to join NATO, (b) that every Baltic country that did join NATO after 1997 should be prevented from hosting NATO forces or weapons, and (c) American approval for it to depose the Ukrainian government, and install a Kremlin satellite like Belarus now has. For the hell of it, Putin’s now throwing “And we’ll have Alaska back too” into his demands.

We already know (thanks to Russian TV, Lukashenko and other sources including Putin himself) that
Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Finland, Poland, and even Sweden are on Putin’s invasion plans. Putin’s even nutty enough to have considered invading more than one of them at a time.

The only thing preventing Putin from executing that plan is Ukraine. It’s doggedly resisting, and that is forcing him to commit more and more of Russia’s military resources to that incursion. Plus, he’s lost the element of surprise. Plus, we can now see that a lot of their hardware is poorly maintained and outdated.

Now imagine how this would’ve played out if Putin had seen less resistance, and it had forced Ukraine’s unconditional surrender.

Scenario 1. NATO has to accept the surrender terms Ukraine signed up to, and this places a barrier between NATO and all the Baltic states inside the NATO alliance. The mutual defense aspect of membership of NATO completely breaks down. Putin can go where he likes next. PUTIN WINS.

Scenario 2. Ukraine’s resistance wasn’t going to hold out, so Russia picks a Baltic target and rearranges his deployments. If the NATO mutual defense commitment still doesn’t apply, that’s two nations along NATO’s border that Putin’s invaded with and at no risk of retaliation. Same result. PUTIN WINS.

Scenario 3. Putin just decides, to hell with it, and goes after a NATO country next without bothering to do the decent thing and declare war on it first. (He’s convinced he has the might, and the moral authority, to take back the entire Warsaw Pact region through “an operation”.) The one thing that could possibly stop him after this point is NATO - which, unlike Putin, would have to be explicit that it was declaring war on Russia.

I can’t think of any scenario where we do something serious enough to provoke Putin into declaring World War 3 formally. Putin is the kind of cowardly pondlife who will launch nukes without the diplomatic niceties, or claim he’s been provoked no matter what anyone else does, or claim it’s just a test, or claim saboteurs did it. Therefore he doesn’t need to wait for any excuses to come from us.

So even if you don’t like the idea of Zelenskyy apparently begging for World War 3, the painful fact is from their perspective, a leader who’s shelling the very people he claims to be trying to rescue, isn’t going to be magnanimous in victory. Every civilian who has picked up a weapon even in self defense (whether pro-Russian or pro-Zelenskyy) knows that an outright Putin win will not result in any reparations or rebuilding or peace for Ukraine.

The latest news is, Chernobyl’s Russian siege has resulted in the same staff being kept on shift for two whole weeks at gunpoint without a break, they’re too exhausted to think. If you’re within 500 miles of Pripyat, you’re not thinking of nuclear war in terms of ICBMs; you’re thinking Russia’s just going to engineer an “accidental” release of a massive cloud of lethal radiation and blame it on incompetent scientists.


147 posted on 03/16/2022 4:54:28 PM PDT by MalPearce
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To: David Chase
It’s noteworthy the Bio Labs drama is fading.

So what I hear you saying is there are no bio labs? Even after the derp Victoria Nuland testified before Congress that there are?

And as for 'fading', derp information suppression is a thing, you know, and is very effective. Dopes like you fall for it every single time.

They are confirming Russian Aggression, battle scenes and civilians suffering.

Whose arguing against Russian aggression and battle scenes? And civilians suffer in urban warfare if they don't get out of Dodge. In this case, they have been issued weapons and told to fight. You fight, you die. This is reality.

#PlayStupidGamesWinStupidPrizes

#DavidChaseVirtueSignalling

#Again


148 posted on 03/16/2022 4:54:35 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: David Chase
I wish you’d quite blaming the Deep State for everything.

You need to understand the world.

"The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist".

~ Verbal Kint (Kaiser Soze)

That attitude puts you against your own country, countrymen.

And? At this point, my country and 'countrymen' are against me and consider me an enemy and domestic terrorist. I owe no loyalty to this government and the 40% of people who are under the hypnotic spell of the enemy. Sadly, I count you in that number, though I expect you have joined their ranks out of pure ignorance and naivete.

The derp siren call is very powerful and very often resistance is futile.

#YouAreBorg


149 posted on 03/16/2022 5:01:41 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: libertarian66

Dude I’ve already destroyed you in multiple posts before.
***The hell you have.

Give it up. You don’t know what “99 percent of the population thinks”,
***Sure I do. Just ask. Some people. If someone leaves a valuable thing on your property and doesn’t even bother to come back to get it, it is abandoned items left on YOUR property. But such simple things evade you. Just like the simple question you go out of your way to ignore: If they STILL had them, Russia never woulda invaded.

and it doesn’t matter - only facts matter.
***You are one of the last people on this planet I would trust for generating facts.

They never had nukes.
***Then there was no reason to have such an agreement? Complete bullsnot.

They never will.
***The could, within a few months. They have 15 nuke plants, fissionable material, experience with Chernobyl, and now the motivation. You assert sumthin like “they never will” and then treat your own argument-from-silence-fallacies as if they are proven facts.

We owe them nothing.
***We signed an agreement with them over their own sovereignty, we owe them a legit backing since they gave up the nukes in question.

Our interest matter,
***I agree. And it is in our interest to very aggressively assure their sovereignty or they will be highly tempted to build their own nukes and kill a few hundred thousand Russians just to make a point that they wanna be left the frack alone. And when Pootypoot sees his favorite city go up in a nuke plume, he’ll be lookin’ to blame the USA and Europe so we end up SEVERELY risking a nukular engagement, all because of appeasers like you.

Ukraine’s are nothing. Let them save themselves or die trying.
***I agree with that. Let them save themselves, let them have nukes. Nukes assure sovereignty. We sure don’t.


150 posted on 03/16/2022 5:07:59 PM PDT by Kevmo (Give back Ukes their Nukes https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4044080/posts)
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Bagster is just a troll. No need for me to even read his posts.


151 posted on 03/16/2022 5:13:40 PM PDT by Kevmo (Give back Ukes their Nukes https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4044080/posts)
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again, bagster is just a troll, no need to read or respond to what he says


152 posted on 03/16/2022 5:15:05 PM PDT by Kevmo (Give back Ukes their Nukes https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4044080/posts)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The US/Nato conducted a proxy coup in 2014 to depose a democratically elected President.
***So.... using your meme, the people lookin’ at the bear put some OTHER bear in the bear’s cave? Kind of a lot of bullshiite you’re asking us to swallow.

They have been conducting a proxy war in Ukraine ever since. Think of Canada shelling New York City.
***I’m thinking of your meme. It has such a limited scope.


153 posted on 03/16/2022 5:17:01 PM PDT by Kevmo (Give back Ukes their Nukes https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4044080/posts)
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To: bagster

I am saying every 1st world country has Bio Labs.

Those Labs research some pretty nasty stuff.

The fact that Ukraine has Bio Labs is great for a conspiracy but in reality is a big nothing burger.

The fact that a foreign Bio Lab might be researching deadly pathogens that the U.S. does not study is also normal.
The U.S. banned many pathogens in the Homeland.
Ebola, SARS are just two.
So we contract out.
Just like Waterboarding.
The CIA did it, but it’s banned here in the U.S.

That fact is now being realized and the drama and hype is fading and going back to Soros and the Deep State.


154 posted on 03/16/2022 5:20:37 PM PDT by David Chase
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To: Jewbacca; Redleg Duke; HereInTheHeartland

There are many opinions about this conflict among the posters here. Some say “There’s no good guy here” or “A pox upon both houses.” That view is fair and reasonable. It’s harder to understand those who portray Putin as the white hat, Ukraine as the nefarious villain. Nor the hostility shown to those expressing opposite opinions.

I’m no saint, since I mockingly refer to them as Young Putineers. I even told a couple to go F themselves. But I’ve been called a Biden stooge, Soros puppet, NWO neocon, warmonger retard simply for pointing out that Russia is the aggressor. I’ve even been accused of having hacked this account!

How could someone be so deluded that they actually think Putin is single handedly saving Western civilization and Christian values by altruistically sweeping out the den of corruption and vile biowarfare labs that is Ukraine? How can anyone really think Putin is prepping to reveal the depth of Biden’s corruption and stop the NWO in its tracks? I think these folks break down into two categories:

1. Hard core conspiracy theorists

These people believe nothing is as it seems. The Deep State is a Spectre style hidden hand, that works in lockstep to control world events. They are so completely invested in the Biden steal that anything he’s for, they’re against. The idea that Putin is an old KGB hand bent on resorting the glory of the USSR is Deep State propaganda. Some of these would have probably cheered Hitler on if they were around in the 1940s because he was against the Commies.

2. Russophiles

This type includes ethnic Russians or those of Russian descent. They cheer the Bear like a Chicago native at the local watering hole during football season. It’s hardwired since birth.

It also includes Russian assets. I’m convinced that both both Russian and Chinese agencies have posters working on their behalf.

As the popular meme goes, prove me wrong!


155 posted on 03/16/2022 5:20:57 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Jewbacca
But in this case, the stopped clock that is the MSM is right — Russians are the bad guys.

Anyone who does not kowtow to the deep state, run by China, is the bad guy. Trump, Putin and a whole long list of dictators, tyrants and despots. I question EVERY "enemy" the US government has told us are enemies. Notice how socialist scum who play nice with the global deep state are never presented as bad guys.

156 posted on 03/16/2022 5:23:45 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: dfwgator

Yup. Too bad there are so very few who can learn that lesson from history.


157 posted on 03/16/2022 5:24:47 PM PDT by Kevmo (Give back Ukes their Nukes https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4044080/posts)
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To: Captain Peter Blood

There’s enough of “history” in that Agreement that we signed it. Russians violated it. We abrogated it.

When the Ukes drop their Nukes they won’t be listening to people like you. But maybe you could put together a pertinent history lesson on youtube or sumthin. Best of luck with that.


158 posted on 03/16/2022 5:26:40 PM PDT by Kevmo (Give back Ukes their Nukes https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4044080/posts)
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To: Kevmo

So your for military intervention


159 posted on 03/16/2022 5:30:24 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: David Chase
The fact that Ukraine has Bio Labs is great for a conspiracy but in reality is a big nothing burger.

Maybe you're right. Just like Wuhan and covid were a 'conspiracy theory'.

So you don't see anything wrong with USA banning that research but farming it out to Wuhan and Ukraine? Are you for real?


160 posted on 03/16/2022 5:34:46 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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