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A Reason to Be Vaccinated: Freedom
Desiring God ^ | October 19, 2021 | John Piper

Posted on 10/23/2021 10:03:32 PM PDT by CheshireTheCat

My aim in this article is to encourage Christians to be vaccinated, if they can do so with a good conscience and judicious medical warrant.

The people I have especially in view are those who are not vaccinated because of fear of being out of step with people they respect, and in step with people they don’t admire. My message to them is simple: You are free.

So, I am not talking directly to everybody. If the shoe fits, put it on, check your conscience, consult your doctor, and go get vaccinated. If it doesn’t, go tearfully and cheerfully on your way. Tearfully, because over 4.5 million people have died from COVID-19 worldwide (including over 700,000 Americans). And cheerfully, because Christ makes it miraculously possible to love people by being “sorrowful yet always rejoicing” (2 Corinthians 6:10)....

My point is this: Don’t be enslaved by fear of man. Don’t be enslaved by the fear of breaking ranks with ideological allies. The old name for this is peer pressure. You are free.....

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There are so many problems with this, I don't know where to begin.

Actually, I do: Trump

Piper, of whom I am not that familiar (but he seems to be a big deal in some Christian circles, I gather), seems to think many people are not getting vaccinated for ideological reasons.

Well, many of these people are Trump voters, and Trump hasn't exactly been telling people not to get jabbed.

Steve Deace reads for the first time (his first time reading it) and reacts in real time to the essay below with some rather harsh, but I believe totally justified, words:

https://rumble.com/vo1oxt-a-stunning-nih-admission-guest-dr.-mark-mcdonald-102121.html

go to the 57 min. mark

(Go to 31 min. mark in same video for an interview with a child psychiatrist who has been overwhelmed with patients in the last year due.)

1 posted on 10/23/2021 10:03:32 PM PDT by CheshireTheCat
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A completely idiotic rationale.

Does this guy have a Jim Jones complex?


2 posted on 10/23/2021 10:05:44 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: CheshireTheCat

Not surprised Piper took the low IQ route.


3 posted on 10/23/2021 10:08:24 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (What are the implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: CheshireTheCat

False thesis to begin with.

It isn’t freedom if you have to kowtow to some mad scientists and eugenicists and let them inject poison into you to get it.


4 posted on 10/23/2021 10:09:14 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: CheshireTheCat

Pied Piper.


5 posted on 10/23/2021 10:09:54 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (DEFEAT THE COUP D'ETAT BY THE STALINAZI DERP STATE !)
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To: CheshireTheCat
Testify! The Testimonies Project was created to provide a platform for all those who were affected after getting the covid-19 vaccines, and to make sure their voices are heard, since they are not heard in the Israeli media.

We hope this project will encourage more and more people to tell their story.

6 posted on 10/23/2021 10:12:20 PM PDT by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper)
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To: CheshireTheCat
This is coming from a country where most new Covid infections are of people who have already been vaccinated with the vaccine that was supposed to offer near total protection.


7 posted on 10/23/2021 10:12:36 PM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: reasonisfaith

And none of his Scriptural references apply to his statements about getting the vaccine.

I’ve always suspected Piper had big problems. Now it’s clear he’s fully in league with the deep state.


8 posted on 10/23/2021 10:13:34 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (What are the implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: CheshireTheCat; All

This is the stupidest liberal christianity excuse for propaganda i’ve read in a damn long time.


9 posted on 10/23/2021 10:14:45 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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Looks like the only Piper I'm going to be taking advice from is Rowdy Roddy Piper:


10 posted on 10/23/2021 10:15:07 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: Gene Eric

those sticking to the facts and to their guns are in the minority apparently and having to fight tooth and nail against all media, all govt, etc....WE are the ones that should be encouraged and praised and congratulated for holding the line.


11 posted on 10/23/2021 10:15:48 PM PDT by cherry
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To: reasonisfaith

The nazis got the church leaders to prevent people from even thinking about revolting against the 3rd reich.

God put hitler in authority over you

let him do his evil, he’s chosen by God

Tyrants often use the word of god to justify themselves, and willing christian parsies to buttress their messages and agendas


12 posted on 10/23/2021 10:16:44 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: CheshireTheCat

Piper is 100% pro jab and tries to use the Bible to justify his opinion. And that falls far short, even in what he is trying to use as justification.
Simply, if I am a slave to God, which I am; I do not hear or feel God telling my to get vaccinated. God is not telling us to get this jab. Probably for good reason. So I am free to choose. I choose to accept the risk as low as it is (especially since I’m convinced I’ve had it along with my wife and kids). I’ve got a bunch of other reasons, but that’s it.


13 posted on 10/23/2021 10:17:50 PM PDT by vpintheak (Live free, or die!)
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To: Gene Eric

We have quite a few people now with natural immunity that are not vaccinated. I don’t really see this taken into account in the stats.
Many of the young are unvaccinated. There is really no upside for those under healthy under 40 or so to take the vaccine so wisely many have not. I seriously doubt we are seeing any deaths in the unvaccinated young due to Covid (but more likely due to vaccine which they will never admit)
The antibodies to the spike protein are apparently short lived, several months and even less in older people. The vaccines can result in diminished natural immunity because there is no immune response to the rest of the virus only spike protein. The T cell immunity may be impaired among the vaccinated so time will tell in thus grand experiment.


14 posted on 10/23/2021 10:17:51 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Civil disobedience by jury nullification. )
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To: CheshireTheCat

Freedom has no requirements.

The freedom to be stupid (in someone’s eyes) is the most powerful freedom of all.

This is just totalitarian apologetics.


15 posted on 10/23/2021 10:19:00 PM PDT by Skywise
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To: CheshireTheCat

In the same way that we have God given rights that are not given to us by any man and therefore, have no moral justification for being withheld by any man, any freedoms stemming from the COVID shot fall into that category-in a free county we have those rights already.

Agreeing to be vaccinated so that you can travel freely is ceding something to Statists and Tyrants that you already have.


16 posted on 10/23/2021 10:19:15 PM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists are The Droplet of Sewage in a gallon of ultra-pure clean water.)
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To: CheshireTheCat

piper is not exactly solid- He was a big deal i n the Christian community awhile back, but has said some pretty unbiblical things since-

So he is using peer pressure to cause people to think they are under the spell of peer pressure if they don’t want to get vaccinated because they don’t trust the government and it’s myriad of lies surrounding vaccines, and covid deaths, and constantly changing rules and regulations and mandates?

He’s trying to pressure these folks into believing they are being pressured by ‘ideologues’
piper apparently unquestioningly believes the death counts- not even bothering to investigate- EVERYTHING is being listed as ‘dying from covid’ practically- The question is no longer “IF” they are lying, but rather ‘how much is the government lying about covid deaths?”

Again- he is pressuring folks by trying to convince them that they are on the wrong side, that they have been unduly influenced by others who have an agenda- He doesn’t even bother to stop and ask whether the folks might actually have rational well thought out reasons for rejecting the vaccinations- No- he just tells them that they are under a spell because they are too ignorant to think for themselves- evidently-

Way to go John Piper- Way to insult the intelligence of millions and millions of folks who refuse to allow government to jab them with vaccines that are proving to be dangerous and to cause serious health issues- Heck- countries are STOPPING booster shots because they are proving dangerous!-

Go back to peddling your unbliblical ‘religious’ books John!


17 posted on 10/23/2021 10:19:53 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: CheshireTheCat

If it was “freedom”...those who’d already had covid would not be forced to get the shot. What a load.


18 posted on 10/23/2021 10:19:54 PM PDT by goodnesswins (The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution." -- Saul Alinksy)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Ram jam and cram theology. Non contextual and bible verses are selected to bolster his Marxist agenda.


19 posted on 10/23/2021 10:20:56 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Civil disobedience by jury nullification. )
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To: CheshireTheCat

Freedom thru endless submission???

The author is a complete idiot!!


20 posted on 10/23/2021 10:20:56 PM PDT by datura (The voice that brought you peace has nothing left to say.)
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