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>How does the whole NIATONIN thing work?
Telegram and FR | September 9, 2021 | Dr. Dmitry Kats (interpreted)

Posted on 09/09/2021 6:58:17 AM PDT by numberonepal

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Updated #NIATONIN Protocol for Vax Injury, COVID and Long COVID recovery.

2x daily for adults (mainly for recovery; butyrate will not need to remain this high) - DO THIS AFTER MEALS (lunch & dinner):

800-1600 mg Taurine
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10-15 mg MELATONIN <— evaluate as per 66.7:1 ratio N:M.
(melatonin supplementation may not be needed here, and instead just at night before bed)

+

3.6-5.0 g BUTYRATE
^ NOTE that a 3.6 g dose corresponds to six (6) separate BodyBio or Butyrex capsules; lower doses can be taken in more mild cases. Remove one pill per day on the third day.

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200 mcg Selenium (w/ 1st and/or 2nd dose).

Wait 15-45 min (evaluate when is best).

1-3 g NIACIN per comfort/need
Perhaps start at 500 mg if your first time & not an emergency situation (don’t fear flush; try working up to at least 1 g doses as comfortably as possible)


10-15 mg Melatonin before bed at night. Once you wake up, take 1-3 g niacin.


381 posted on 10/29/2021 6:00:27 AM PDT by numberonepal (WWG1WGA)
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To: numberonepal

I envy you having fresh aloe vera! Is it hard to grow? I’ve thought of getting some, but with my brown thumb I’d probably kill it!

So I use the bottled gel. But that’s really the only way I’ve been “taking” melatonin at all lately. It readily dissolves in the aloe/colloidal silver mix just by stirring. Slathering it on my skin feels so good after a shower, and any time after I wash my face.

I’ve been taking 1 gram of niacin 2 or 3 times a day. Finally overcame my hesitance to take it on an empty stomach, since I usually don’t eat until I’ve been up for around 4 hours. I’m doing very well and getting a lot done. The energy boost is subtle, but there.


382 posted on 10/29/2021 9:20:50 AM PDT by 17strings (There are 2 means of refuge from the miseries of life, music & cats. - A. Schweitzer)
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To: 17strings

Aloe is easy even for a brown thumb. In fact, any succulent is fairly easy to care for.

In my next batch I will use silver water I make (15ppm) and see what happens.


383 posted on 10/29/2021 9:26:48 AM PDT by numberonepal (WWG1WGA)
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To: AZLiberty

I had a world-class bowel movement an hour after I took the butyrate, but that could be a coincidence. (I know, TMI.)


People say on the Telegram chat that it’s called “Getting your booty right”.
It’s really pronounced “Butt Irate”, though, IMO (butt no, I haven’t taken any!) ;-)


384 posted on 10/29/2021 9:29:20 AM PDT by 17strings (There are 2 means of refuge from the miseries of life, music & cats. - A. Schweitzer)
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To: numberonepal

I think I know where all my excess cholesterol went. I now have Y-pattern acne, on my shoulders, down the middle of my chest to the top of my stomach. The cholesterol is being excreted through my pores.


385 posted on 10/29/2021 11:57:13 AM PDT by AZLiberty (All I want for Christmas (better, Halloween) is Trump back in the saddle.)
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To: AZLiberty
The cholesterol is being excreted through my pores.

Same here. I've never ever had acne on my back or chest. I broke out at high doses.

386 posted on 10/29/2021 1:19:29 PM PDT by numberonepal (WWG1WGA)
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To: numberonepal

OMG! First day trying this and I’m on FIRE RIGHT NOW! Good gawd! This is NOTHING like a hot flash. Guess this means I need to up the melatonin. Wow.


387 posted on 11/01/2021 10:45:20 AM PDT by Mama Shawna
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To: Mama Shawna

Stay with the 66.7:1 ratio. Take some extra mellie to help control the flush. Are you doing the butyrate?


388 posted on 11/01/2021 1:31:02 PM PDT by numberonepal (WWG1WGA)
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To: dave260

You can get NAC from pipingrock.com


389 posted on 11/01/2021 3:19:11 PM PDT by Mama Shawna
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To: numberonepal

How do you take NAC?


390 posted on 11/01/2021 11:16:13 PM PDT by AZLiberty (All I want for Christmas (better, Halloween) is Trump back in the saddle.)
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To: AZLiberty

You can remove it from the cap and dissolve it. You can take with niacin. It is more bitter than niacin however.


391 posted on 11/02/2021 6:54:17 AM PDT by numberonepal (WWG1WGA)
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To: Mama Shawna

It’s always the worst at the beginning. It gets better if you persist. How much did you take? I flushed like crazy with only 300mg at first. I was convinced I’d never be able to take more niacin than that. I played around with increasing the dosage very incrementally each time, along with large doses of melatonin (like 1/2 as much as the niacin), and managed to reduce the flushing to just my head and neck, and then only tingling. But it wasn’t until I did the counter-intuitive thing - the 66.7:1 ratio, even with much more niacin, that I got it down to a tiny, barely noticeable tingle, or nothing at all. That was about 3 weeks in, IIRC. I don’t know if it was something about that ratio, or my body was just getting used to niacin supplementation. It sounded so strange and contrary, but it worked! Now I take 1000mg niacin 3 times a day without even thinking about it, and no issues.

So the niacin flush is -not- like a hot flash? I was wondering about that. What’s the difference? Turning red? I went through menopause 20 years ago but never experienced hot flashing, so I thought the niacin flush was the closest I’d get to it.


392 posted on 11/02/2021 9:29:03 AM PDT by 17strings (There are 2 means of refuge from the miseries of life, music & cats. - A. Schweitzer)
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To: numberonepal; AZLiberty

I just take the NAC with my other vitamins, and swallow the cap. It smells so sulfuric, I don’t think I’d want to open it.

Speaking of smells, I told my husband about butyrate. He has IBS, and I told him it might help and he was intrigued and ordered some. We’ll see what he reports.


393 posted on 11/02/2021 9:34:03 AM PDT by 17strings (There are 2 means of refuge from the miseries of life, music & cats. - A. Schweitzer)
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To: 17strings

*I did not warn him about the smell. Tee-hee!


394 posted on 11/02/2021 9:36:10 AM PDT by 17strings (There are 2 means of refuge from the miseries of life, music & cats. - A. Schweitzer)
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I bought the powder. Maybe I’ll fill my own capsules.


395 posted on 11/02/2021 10:46:52 AM PDT by AZLiberty (All I want for Christmas (better, Halloween) is Trump back in the saddle.)
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To: 17strings

The niacin flush is nothing like a hot flash but probably as close as you can get. I prefer the flush to the flash, haha! The flush is more of a skin heat/tingling, whereas hot flashes are from the inside and make you look around for the nearest fan! (I’ve got fans on 6 inch centers right now). I think it was Salamander who commented to me once that “you know you’re having a hot flash when you’re in a bikini sitting in a snow bank!” HAHAHAHA!! Never forgot that.

Yesterday was my first day, and I only took it once. I didn’t get the bulk stuff, but bought some pills from my on-line source (pipingrock.com), so they do have some additives, etc. Yesterday was 500mg Niacin and 12mg melatonin and I flushed like crazy (kinda like it, actually). Beet red forearms/face etc that lasted maybe half an hour. This morning I doubled the M to 24 mg and kept the N the same, still flushed but not as intensely as yesterday. Eating lunch right now and will take my regular vitamins, wait a couple hours and then do the N/M combo around 2 my time (pacific coast). This time I’m going to increase the M again and see what happens. I didn’t get the butyl stuff (or whatever it’s called) didn’t see that in the original post, and I went off that. Just now managed to get through the entire thread up to post 338 and have to keep reading from there. I’m most interested to see if this might help with tinnitus. Hubby has it bad and so far nothing helps. I feel so bad for him ‘cause it can drive you crazy at times.


396 posted on 11/02/2021 12:13:56 PM PDT by Mama Shawna
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To: Mama Shawna

I recall reading quite a few mentions of tinnitus in the Niatonin thread on Telegram. If you have Telegram, you can go there and use the magnifying glass icon to enter a search tor the word tinnitus, and all references to it in the very very long chat thread will come up together.


397 posted on 11/02/2021 1:14:23 PM PDT by 17strings (There are 2 means of refuge from the miseries of life, music & cats. - A. Schweitzer)
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To: 17strings

I just did that! TONS of people saying they’ve either cured it, or GREATLY reduced it. Just texted hubby that he may want to try it. He was a little worried when I told him about my flush yesterday. Not sure about all this stuff I’m taking. I’m just trying to find better health and mainly something to battle my arthritis. I’m not giving up my guitar until I absolutely HAVE TO. And 56 is WAY too young to be giving up!


398 posted on 11/02/2021 1:38:56 PM PDT by Mama Shawna
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To: 17strings

By the way, I had the bliss experience after acupuncture again yesterday. I was able to coax it along with expressions of gratitude for half an hour. Gratitude seems to feed the feeling. I mentally say to myself, “Thank you, so-and-so, for being a part of my life.”

I never had this before despite many acupuncture treatments. Since I’ve been on Niatonin, it’s happened 3 out of 4 times.


399 posted on 11/02/2021 3:18:25 PM PDT by AZLiberty (All I want for Christmas (better, Halloween) is Trump back in the saddle.)
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To: 17strings

Afternoon report: 36mg of M/500mg of N. Flush not NEARLY as intense. Think I’m almost there. Will maybe cut M pill in half tomorrow morning and do 42/500, see how that works.


400 posted on 11/02/2021 3:38:34 PM PDT by Mama Shawna
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