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1 posted on 08/15/2021 5:31:02 AM PDT by Onthebrink
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Why America Was Destined To Fail In Afghanistan

Nation Building!

2 posted on 08/15/2021 5:39:01 AM PDT by Roccus (Prima di ogni altra cosa, siate armati!)
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We need a new country now more than ever.


3 posted on 08/15/2021 5:51:03 AM PDT by HighSierra5 (The only way you know a commie is lying is when they open their pieholes.)
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America was destined to fail in Afghanistan because in the 20 years since 9/11 I never once saw anything resembling a coherent definition of success.

When you saw those public statements by that loser GWB over the last few months lamenting the fact that “girls in Afghanistan won’t be able to go to school anymore” if the Taliban toppled the U.S.-backed government, you knew we are living in a country run by retarded baboons.

4 posted on 08/15/2021 5:52:06 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("And once in a night I dreamed you were there; I canceled my flight from going nowhere.")
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The Afghan army collapsed in a week.

The Dept. of Homeland Security will last forever.

6 posted on 08/15/2021 6:08:17 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (This is not a tagline.)
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Nobody since Alexander the Great has been successful in Afghanistan. We’re no different.


8 posted on 08/15/2021 6:15:40 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (... to the Republic for which it stands ...)
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Why America Was Destined To Fail In Afghanistan

I've never regretted my vote more. Sure, I voted for McCain and Romney but at least those guys had the decency to lose.

11 posted on 08/15/2021 6:22:04 AM PDT by Drew68
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We took over the Taliban using Northern Alliance troupes, to which we provided aerial support and supplied arms and resources. As a matter of fact mostly captured Soviet arms the Afghani were more comfortable with.
That took pretty short time.
However - almost instantly we blew it.
Micromanagement from Washington let Bin Laden and Mullah Omar escape.
We instantly released defeated Taliban troupes and even most of the leaders were quickly let go from Guantanamo. Most of them rejoined the fight. There were almost instantly calls against mistreatment of Taliban and against US and Northern Alliance.
We basically betrayed the Northern Alliance (alliance of all Afghan minorities, including Tajik, Uzbek and Hazara) which together makes majority in Afghanistan. Instead, we pushed NATION BUILDING by preferring Pashtun government, hostile to Northern Alliance.
The rules of engagement on our troupes in Afghanistan were ridiculous. Our men were basically allowed to shoot only if shot at!

In my opinion, we should put Northern Alliance people in full charge of Afghanistan, and let them take care about the Taliban, their way! I think we could be out of there in few months! Yes, there would be some killing and abuse then, but by now, all would be clean and cozy!


14 posted on 08/15/2021 6:41:27 AM PDT by AZJeep (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0AHGreco RomNQkryIIs)
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we did not convert the muhammadums to Christianity


16 posted on 08/15/2021 6:48:11 AM PDT by mjp (pro-freedom & pro-wealth $)
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Why America Was Destined To Fail In Afghanistan:

Islam.


17 posted on 08/15/2021 6:48:33 AM PDT by PTBAA
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the only way to stop a group like the taliban is the kill everyone of them....each and every one of them.


20 posted on 08/15/2021 6:53:50 AM PDT by ealgeone
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Rules of Engagement with Muslims -

If Infidels are present, Sunni with unite with Shi’a sects to enslave (physical, sex, monetary), convert, and annihilate all Infidels.

If no Infidels present, Sunni will turn against Shi’a until one or the other is enslaved or annihilated.

The rising population of Muslims over 1200 years shows the effectiveness of their tactics.


21 posted on 08/15/2021 6:58:30 AM PDT by RideForever (Know Islam, No Peace; No Islam, Know Peace)
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It is ironic how Bush was unwilling to use American power to do the job correctly in Afghanistan, but start and endless war under the pretense of keeping America safe. We could have gone in, destroyed Afghanistan, murdered the Taliban by the thousands, salted the poppy fields an left. It would have taken months, not 20 years. We would have had victory and not this Charlie Foxtrot today.

Instead, Bush and Obama kept doubling down on failed policy allowing American lives and limbs to be taken. They doubled down on failed policy and wasted American treasure on rebuilding a Godless nation. They doubled down on failed policy of giving "democracy" to an illiterate people that have no idea what democracy is and how it has failed in the past.

Every step of the way, the deep state establishment enriched themselves. This even goes back to the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan. They made the same mistakes then. The CIA funding Bin Laden for example.

That could easily been avoided with a little knowledge about Islam and history. Relying on Muslims, men without character, was a mistake and will always be a mistake. We did it with Bin Laden, but we didn't learn from that easily foreseen mistake. We doubled down on the likes of Abdul Rashid Dostum, another man of character. Gen. Dostum of the Northern Alliance, had to flee Afghanistan because he was a rapist. He didn't do the job correctly to begin with because he was always destined to fail. Bush relied on a man without character, one of many, when a job needed to be done correctly.

Here is a useful lesson. No Muslim is ever a man of character. Muslims do not share Western values. They are antithetical to every thing that is American. Never rely on Muslims to do what is needed to be done. You only need to look at what a great job the Muslim Afghan Army is doing today, after $88 billion in training and arms. They are not just surrendering to the Taliban, they are defecting. Just yesterday, a General of an Afghan Army division, defected to the Taliban with his troops and arms. He didn't surrender, he became a traitor. A man of character, trained by the American elitist establishment that is so intelligent that they can't judge character.

I had no problem going into Afghanistan after 9/11. The Islamic world needed a beat down, not a rebuilding. We should have rained holy hell fire on Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Somalia and many other places that supported terrorism. Murdering Muslims throughout the world would have made the world a better place. Rebuilding them has not. We should have done it ourselves, as men of character, with or without the help of around natural allies.

Instead we relied on Muslims. Instead we allowed RINOs like Bush, and all Democrats trade our freedoms for safety. We got neither. We got things like the Patriot Act at home, when the solution was to kill Muslims abroad. We were told that we needed to handle terrorism aboard, so it would never be in America again. But we allow thousands of Muslims from around the world to migrate to America. We got the likes of Illhan Omar in Congress. Instead we should have been deporting every single Muslim foreign national.

This has been a cluster for decades. It is time to correct our direction and make things right. That begins with ending this crap in Afghanistan and sending every Muslim national in America home. We also need to deport every damn illegal that has crossed our southern border home. Everyone of these people, Muslim or not, makes American less American.

24 posted on 08/15/2021 7:13:15 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA (“When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty.” ― Thomas Jefferson)
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26 posted on 08/15/2021 8:47:24 AM PDT by GraceG ("If I post an AWESOME MEME, STEAL IT! JUST RE-POST IT IN TWO PLACES PLEASE")
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The narrative is a lie. We had to go to Afghanistan after 9/11 and destroy Al Qaeda. We did that, remarkably well and easily.

Nation building is a failed idea. But, staying there as a means of combating Islamic terrorist was basic commonsense.

Leaving and letting the Taliban takwoever is an idiotic decision that will force to go back and wipe out Islamic terrorists again. We'll lose more lives ultimately than if we had stayed.

32 posted on 08/15/2021 11:16:55 AM PDT by Kazan
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Some people call it will to WIN.
33 posted on 08/15/2021 12:16:33 PM PDT by dearolddad
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Because the Afghanis didn’t want to buy what we were selling.


34 posted on 08/15/2021 12:18:52 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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