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China’s Xiaomi overtakes Apple in global smartphone market
TG ^ | 7/16/2021 | Evan

Posted on 07/16/2021 6:30:44 AM PDT by wrrock

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To: discostu

“ The cult of Apple was bound to run out of steam eventually.

It hasn’t. Check the financials.

“At some point twice as expensive for only marginally better becomes not acceptable.

You subsidize the cost of fake iphones by accepting they will sell your personal info. You may consider that a great trade off.


21 posted on 07/16/2021 7:50:15 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (“Fraud vitiates everything.” )
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

They’re now #3 in the cell market. Clearly the shine is fading.

Not getting fake iphones. I wouldn’t want something that’s even trying to ape the Apple UI. They suck.


22 posted on 07/16/2021 8:23:37 AM PDT by discostu (Like a dog being shown a card trick )
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To: wrrock

Be interesting to see how much of the chinese phone is an iPhone.
You know damned good and well the Chinese didnt design it, they just stole everything from someone else.


23 posted on 07/16/2021 8:24:57 AM PDT by TexasM1A
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To: wrrock

I wonder if Xiaomi has safety nets around their factory buildings like Apple does?


24 posted on 07/16/2021 9:13:56 AM PDT by minnesota_bound (I need more money. )
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To: brownsfan

The US does not have a local work force in the hundreds of thousands to replace the Chinese; it would cost significantly more to manufacture; years for the permitting process; more years to build the plants. Not to mention its nearly impossible to find workers that want to work these days in the first place, want to show up on time, are willing to actually do the work.


25 posted on 07/16/2021 9:29:36 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: minnesota_bound

I wonder if Xiaomi has safety nets around their factory buildings like Apple does?


Likely made in the same factories - they are not single product vendor manufacturers


26 posted on 07/16/2021 9:30:41 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Fresh Wind

They would only have to purchase what they need from Chinese spies working for Apple.


No need to purchase anything - ALL companies doing business in China are required to turn over ALL proprietary information.


27 posted on 07/16/2021 9:37:35 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: PIF

“The US does not have a local work force ... “

Yeah, you’re right, 350 million people, that’s not nearly enough. Hey, here’s an idea, open the borders!

So, manufacture in China, lay out your well thought out excuses. Transfer the tech to the Chinese, because that’s a requirement. Then watch as they kick your butt in 10 years, rebranding your product.

Bravo.


28 posted on 07/16/2021 9:40:44 AM PDT by brownsfan (Term limits! Without term limits, we are doomed.)
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To: discostu

The cult of Apple was bound to run out of steam eventually.


At nearly US$2.5 trillion valuation AAPL still has a lot of steam to let out. Target price is $150 by some analysts - more steam coming.

Meanwhile the cult of Android is fragmented, uncertain, filled with love of sending their personal data to Google who then sells it to any interested 3rd party - including those in China.


29 posted on 07/16/2021 9:42:10 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Fury

At the mere mention of AAPL in post title or in a comment, the Apple haters rush out from under their rocks, rotting logs, looking all the world like an ant colony on the march.


30 posted on 07/16/2021 9:45:57 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: discostu

They’re now #3 in the cell market.

Who’s on First depends were the particular company is in its product cycle.


31 posted on 07/16/2021 9:47:25 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: PIF

Yup, they’re still over valued. But of course when you sell nothing but overpriced products that’s to be expected. But they’re trending down.

No cult of Android. It’s just the other choice. You either pay $900 for a $400 phone, or you get an Android. And of course Apple is selling your stuff just as much as anybody. They just put a lot of time into lying about it:
https://www.politico.eu/article/apple-privacy-problem/
https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2019/01/apples-hypocritical-defense-data-privacy/581680/
https://appleinsider.com/articles/21/01/28/apple-illustrates-privacy-issues-on-data-privacy-day
https://www.applesutra.com/blog/apple-privacy-issues/

So you keep paying twice as much to be lied to. Meanwhile I recognize the truth, there is no privacy anymore. Hasn’t been for nearly 30 years. And what little there was got shot in the head the minute smartphones got invented.


32 posted on 07/16/2021 9:47:51 AM PDT by discostu (Like a dog being shown a card trick )
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To: PIF

Didn’t use to. Used to be iPhone was number 1 with a bullet and nobody else came close. Bound to happen eventually.


33 posted on 07/16/2021 9:51:46 AM PDT by discostu (Like a dog being shown a card trick )
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To: discostu

“ They’re now #3 in the cell market.

#1 in profit


34 posted on 07/16/2021 9:58:23 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (“Fraud vitiates everything.” )
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Benefit of being overpriced.


35 posted on 07/16/2021 10:03:34 AM PDT by discostu (Like a dog being shown a card trick )
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To: discostu; Swordmaker

Yup, they’re still over valued. But of course when you sell nothing but overpriced products that’s to be expected. But they’re trending down.

No cult of Android. It’s just the other choice. You either pay $900 for a $400 phone, or you get an Android. And of course Apple is selling your stuff just as much as anybody. They just put a lot of time into lying about it:
https://www.politico.eu/article/apple-privacy-problem/
https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2019/01/apples-hypocritical-defense-data-privacy/581680/
https://appleinsider.com/articles/21/01/28/apple-illustrates-privacy-issues-on-data-privacy-day
https://www.applesutra.com/blog/apple-privacy-issues/

So you keep paying twice as much to be lied to. Meanwhile I recognize the truth, there is no privacy anymore. Hasn’t been for nearly 30 years. And what little there was got shot in the head the minute smartphones got invented.


I notice you reference Lefty sites which are always truthful, eh?

The AppleInsider piece is about how Apple works to STOP user data going to advertisers.

The Apple-India piece is over a year old, citing hacks that have to be made by personal access to the users phone by the hacker - which have long been fixed in updates. Moreover, the author relies on reports by other people, then draws conclusions for those assumptions.

There hasn’t been “electronic privacy” since NSA discovered how to tap landlines back in the 1950s.


36 posted on 07/16/2021 10:05:12 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: discostu

Re-read the comment at 31. Nobody came close because their was no competition to speak of. Competition always happens. Nor does Apple’s current position mean it is permanent.


37 posted on 07/16/2021 10:07:56 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: PIF

BWAHAHAHAHA typical cultist. A leftist conspiracy again Apple?! Riiiiiiight. I just picked the first 4 links. Apple does NOT respect privacy. THEY LIE. Suck it up buttercup.


38 posted on 07/16/2021 10:17:28 AM PDT by discostu (Like a dog being shown a card trick )
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To: PIF

I read your comment fine, it was factually inaccurate. Just like this one. Apple’s market share is falling. They didn’t have that market because of lack of competition, they had because of cult cache. But the bloom is off the rose. Slowly but surely they are unwinding. It might not be permanent. Apple’s been almost dead a few times but found a way to rebirth the cult. We’ll see. One way or the other I ain’t buying their overpriced crap.

We’re done. You can have the last word. Bye now. Enjoy your cult.


39 posted on 07/16/2021 10:20:15 AM PDT by discostu (Like a dog being shown a card trick )
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To: minnesota_bound
I wonder if Xiaomi has safety nets around their factory buildings like Apple does?

Why do you persist in repeating this lie that you’ve been shown dozens of times before that FoxConn CEO Terry Gou installed those nets on a couple of plants that were hundreds of kilometers away from the nearest plant making any Apple products. The plants that were involved in a spate of suicides that resulted in Foxconn experiencing a suicide rate of less than 1 in 100,000 per year in 2010 to 2011, were making making Microsoft Xboxes, HP Computer cases, and Sony Playstations. Not a single manufacturing plant making Apple products experienced a single suicide. At the time, China’s overall suicide rate overall was almost 22 per 100,000 per year and the suicide rate among the same age cohort in US Ivy League colleges was 18 per 100,000 per year. GIVE IT A REST! You are only making yourself look like a tool.

40 posted on 07/16/2021 10:23:44 AM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplophobe bigot!)
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