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The Battle Of Teutoburg Forest: The Disaster That Shook Rome
www.fascinate.com ^ | previous to 5/13/2021 | Jamie Hayes

Posted on 05/13/2021 8:30:30 AM PDT by LuciusDomitiusAutelian

The Roman legions didn’t often know defeat. Military supremacy is what made the Roman Empire one of the most powerful in history. So the thousands of Roman soldiers who lay dying in the German mud of Teutoburg forest in 9 AD must have, beneath the pain of their wounds and the fear of death, felt a keen surprise. Roman legions didn’t often know defeat, and here three of them were utterly annihilated. This was not something a legionary expected to experience in his career.

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TOPICS: Education; History; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: antiquity; europe; germany; history; legions; rome; teutoburgforest
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To: BenLurkin

then turn around and manufacture mass murder.


Both the Russians and the Chinese are far better at that enterprise. The Germans are more or less tied with the Japanese of WWII.


41 posted on 05/13/2021 9:57:45 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: LuciusDomitiusAutelian

Julius is most certainly the greatest military mind of all time.

And every great general since has said the same of him.


43 posted on 05/13/2021 9:58:45 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: LuciusDomitiusAutelian
Here comes the Q brigade! Please don’t litter up my thread. Or I’ll litter up yours. I’m an old testament kind of guy.

Stop, you're scaring me.

I don't respond well to authority, in case you were wondering. Much less telling me what to do or not do.

Ask around.

Tell me I can't do something, and you'll get twice as much. Learn psychology.


45 posted on 05/13/2021 10:05:09 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: Mariner

I guess for me I would have Alexander the Great and Julius Caesar tied at #1.

Napoleon prior to his attempt on the Ruskies at #2.

Hans Guderian at #3, #1 in the modern era.

But I love me some George Patton.


46 posted on 05/13/2021 10:06:14 AM PDT by LuciusDomitiusAutelian (netstat -an | grep BS)
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To: bagster

Ok Bagster, you were given fair warning. I’ll not see you soon.


47 posted on 05/13/2021 10:06:55 AM PDT by LuciusDomitiusAutelian (netstat -an | grep BS)
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To: Beowulf9
Life in the legions was rough and the discipline brutal. A mutiny would be answered with "decimation". Then again, for all but the officers life outside the army wouldn't offer the prospect of retirement with land in one of the occupied provinces.

The Romans were heading for their winter quarters across the Rhine and were probably on their last legs after a summer's campaigning and occupation duty among the "savages". The Germanic tribesmen were even less well equipped. But it was their forest and they were led by a trusted auxiliary officer with long experience serving in the Roman army. He knew its every strength and weakness and took full advantage. The "battle" lasted three days with the legions being slaughtered piecemeal. No set piece battle, just a long dark forest nightmare for the exhausted and confused Romans.

Varus (who had been warned of Arminius plans beforehand but didn't believe it) committed suicide before he could be captured, tortured, and sacrificed. His tribunes and centurions weren't so lucky.

48 posted on 05/13/2021 10:07:47 AM PDT by katana
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To: katana

^^^^^well put


49 posted on 05/13/2021 10:09:22 AM PDT by LuciusDomitiusAutelian (netstat -an | grep BS)
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To: Reily

“Barbarians”

I like that netflix does historic stuff, from what I read about them afterwords they appear to get them pretty accurate. Enjoyed Ottoman, Knightfall (Crusaders back in France), Barbarians and currently The Serpent about a mass murderer in the Far East during the 1970s.


50 posted on 05/13/2021 10:10:40 AM PDT by Jolla
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To: LuciusDomitiusAutelian
An interesting thing of note:

In the series 'Spartacus', Quintius Varus was tasked with hunting down Spartacus' slave army.

He was wiped out by them.

I wonder about the true role of Varus. Can't be the same guy, if was wiped out in Germania.

I'll chalk it up to 'poetic license' in the Spartacus series. They likely wanted to include the Roman general that got Custer'd.


51 posted on 05/13/2021 10:11:01 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: Jolla

There is a semi accurate series on Netflix right now. Can’t think of the name. Three short seasons. Caligula, Caesar, and Commodus. It really glosses over the context but good stuff and entertaining.


52 posted on 05/13/2021 10:12:27 AM PDT by LuciusDomitiusAutelian (netstat -an | grep BS)
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To: bagster

Thank you Bagster. For contributing. I’ll stand down.


53 posted on 05/13/2021 10:13:51 AM PDT by LuciusDomitiusAutelian (netstat -an | grep BS)
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To: LuciusDomitiusAutelian
Consider this a fire across your bow.

Sorry, I don't speak nerd.

But I assume that's some hacker shiznit that can be used to 'dox' me.

Trouble is, I am unhaxable. If you wanna know about me, all ya got to do is ask. Think of us as having a face to face conversation.

#OpenBook


54 posted on 05/13/2021 10:15:05 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: LuciusDomitiusAutelian

Thanks enjoy the Roman period, there is lots of it.


55 posted on 05/13/2021 10:15:22 AM PDT by Jolla
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To: bagster
Correction: Quintilius Varus.


56 posted on 05/13/2021 10:17:54 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: Jolla

Ottoman I haven’t seen yet. What’s it about? I can guess via the name but its probably more then that. I did not like Knightfall, deviated far far too much from what’s known regarding Templar history.


57 posted on 05/13/2021 10:18:22 AM PDT by Reily
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To: LuciusDomitiusAutelian
Thank you Bagster. For contributing. I’ll stand down.

Awwwwwww.

Thing is, I love Roman history myself. But I'm nowhere near the expert you are.


59 posted on 05/13/2021 10:19:43 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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