Posted on 05/13/2021 8:30:30 AM PDT by LuciusDomitiusAutelian
The Roman legions didn’t often know defeat. Military supremacy is what made the Roman Empire one of the most powerful in history. So the thousands of Roman soldiers who lay dying in the German mud of Teutoburg forest in 9 AD must have, beneath the pain of their wounds and the fear of death, felt a keen surprise. Roman legions didn’t often know defeat, and here three of them were utterly annihilated. This was not something a legionary expected to experience in his career.
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then turn around and manufacture mass murder.
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Both the Russians and the Chinese are far better at that enterprise. The Germans are more or less tied with the Japanese of WWII.
Julius is most certainly the greatest military mind of all time.
And every great general since has said the same of him.
Stop, you're scaring me.
I don't respond well to authority, in case you were wondering. Much less telling me what to do or not do.
Ask around.
Tell me I can't do something, and you'll get twice as much. Learn psychology.
I guess for me I would have Alexander the Great and Julius Caesar tied at #1.
Napoleon prior to his attempt on the Ruskies at #2.
Hans Guderian at #3, #1 in the modern era.
But I love me some George Patton.
Ok Bagster, you were given fair warning. I’ll not see you soon.
The Romans were heading for their winter quarters across the Rhine and were probably on their last legs after a summer's campaigning and occupation duty among the "savages". The Germanic tribesmen were even less well equipped. But it was their forest and they were led by a trusted auxiliary officer with long experience serving in the Roman army. He knew its every strength and weakness and took full advantage. The "battle" lasted three days with the legions being slaughtered piecemeal. No set piece battle, just a long dark forest nightmare for the exhausted and confused Romans.
Varus (who had been warned of Arminius plans beforehand but didn't believe it) committed suicide before he could be captured, tortured, and sacrificed. His tribunes and centurions weren't so lucky.
^^^^^well put
“Barbarians”
I like that netflix does historic stuff, from what I read about them afterwords they appear to get them pretty accurate. Enjoyed Ottoman, Knightfall (Crusaders back in France), Barbarians and currently The Serpent about a mass murderer in the Far East during the 1970s.
In the series 'Spartacus', Quintius Varus was tasked with hunting down Spartacus' slave army.
He was wiped out by them.
I wonder about the true role of Varus. Can't be the same guy, if was wiped out in Germania.
I'll chalk it up to 'poetic license' in the Spartacus series. They likely wanted to include the Roman general that got Custer'd.
There is a semi accurate series on Netflix right now. Can’t think of the name. Three short seasons. Caligula, Caesar, and Commodus. It really glosses over the context but good stuff and entertaining.
Thank you Bagster. For contributing. I’ll stand down.
Sorry, I don't speak nerd.
But I assume that's some hacker shiznit that can be used to 'dox' me.
Trouble is, I am unhaxable. If you wanna know about me, all ya got to do is ask. Think of us as having a face to face conversation.
#OpenBook
Thanks enjoy the Roman period, there is lots of it.
Ottoman I haven’t seen yet. What’s it about? I can guess via the name but its probably more then that. I did not like Knightfall, deviated far far too much from what’s known regarding Templar history.
Awwwwwww.
Thing is, I love Roman history myself. But I'm nowhere near the expert you are.
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