Posted on 05/13/2021 8:30:30 AM PDT by LuciusDomitiusAutelian
The Roman legions didn’t often know defeat. Military supremacy is what made the Roman Empire one of the most powerful in history. So the thousands of Roman soldiers who lay dying in the German mud of Teutoburg forest in 9 AD must have, beneath the pain of their wounds and the fear of death, felt a keen surprise. Roman legions didn’t often know defeat, and here three of them were utterly annihilated. This was not something a legionary expected to experience in his career.
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I beg to differ, suh.
This thread's IQ climbed 188% when I came aboard.
#DontHateMatriculate
Love that HBO series. It’s pretty accurate but with a 2nd string fictional set of characters. There is a sci-fi alternative history series about the Germans winning WW2. The Man in The Hightower. Explores ideas like that. I would suggest watching it but it’s on that jerk Bezo’s platform Amazon now. So I don’t recommend giving him a penny.
Well, my own opinion after books and books and books about him, I think it was a fairly decent portrayal. Luckily we have his version of events in The Gallic Wars. Of course this is his description of himself. But it also seems to be somewhat accurate based on other sources. That is the big downfall of being a history nut. We will never know for sure.
It’s all so fascinating. I just love Roman history, this particular era.
I look forward to your post on it.
“What I don’t know is how the “E” sound in “Erman” becomes the “A” sound in “Armenius.” How did the Germans pronounce “Herman” 2000 years ago?”
It was probably just changed by transliteration, because “Armenius” was more palatable to Latin tongues than “Ermanius”. Same as how “Caesar” becomes “Kaiser” to the Germans, because they don’t naturally use the “soft” C much.
Ahhh, Alesia, the man was brilliant, had a hyper-loyal staff and army. Double walls and fighting two armies at the same time. Probably his greatest victory. But there are some really close calls when he crossed the Adriatic to fight Pompeii. He nearly bit it there and in Alexandria. As I said in a previous post. He was a military genius AND he had a golden horseshoe up his posterior.
Thanks Beowul9. It is fascinating and also instructive. We must learn from history or we will suffer the same unnecessary failures. That is why these moron commies befuddle me. Marxism has only been around for a little over 100 years and killed 100 million + people, but people keep trying it. Now they are trying it on us and I refuse to let that happen.
Well, its about time for IAF to start some action so I’m off. Thanks everyone for sharing the treasure of history with me. Tomorrow, time allowing, I’m going to post about Boudica. Have a great day. Gonna watch these mujis get pounded.
I wish there was a bust of Boudica so we would know what she looked like but I guess making busts of traitorous queens doesn’t go down so well with the Romans.
Shame about her and her daughters.
Boudica! Boudica! Boudica!
“some really close calls when he crossed the Adriatic to fight Pompeii”
He was fighting a far superior force of Roman soldiers against another great Roman general.
And he still got it done.
Possibly. The Romans probably Latinized his name the same way the half literate, half drunk Irish clerk at Ellis Island turned Wladyczniew Slobvonchvik and Gyros Souvlaki into Walter and Jerry Smith. A kindness and a big step towards assimilating. Nowadays we’re so anti-assimilation that M’beki-Dlzotza’ stays that way and wonders why he’s socially handicapped.
Timing is everything. Cuckoo cuckoo!
I’m talking about Octavian not Julius. I think we have a pretty good understanding Uncle Julius’s personality\character - that of a politician\soldier\statesman\Mafia Don.
Octavian is the enigma for me. From the I, Claudius book & MP series (Robert Graves, a classicist) portrayal to HBO Rome none seem come close to capturing him.
I read all of your comments and 6the threats you stated about going to the Q threads and wreaking havoc. Jim Robinson has posted a set of rules and having been here for over 2 decades I respect him and his rules. So cease your attempts to gather others and descemd on it just to disrupt a sanctioned group. I have communicated with him and others on those threads and have noted personally group attacks by others. I also noted responses to your post, Jim has now ben notified and He will deal with you as he decides
From Livy (35.14):
Publius Africanus was employed in this embassy, and that it was he who conversed with Hannibal at Ephesus. He even relates one of their conversations, in which Scipio asked Hannibal, “whom he thought the greatest captain?” and that he answered, “Alexander, king of Macedonia; because, with a small band, he defeated armies whose numbers were beyond reckoning; and because he had overrun the remotest regions, the merely visiting of which was a thing above human aspiration.”
Scipio then asked, “to whom he gave the second place?” and he replied, “To Pyrrhus; for he first taught the method of encamping; and besides, no one ever showed more exquisite judgment, in choosing his ground, and disposing his posts; while he also possessed the art of conciliating mankind to himself to such a degree, that the nations of Italy wished him, though a foreign prince, to hold the sovereignty among them, rather than the Roman people, who had so long possessed the dominion of that part of the world.”
On his proceeding to ask, “whom he esteemed the third?” Hannibal replied, “Myself, beyond doubt.”
On this Scipio laughed, and added, “What would you have said if you had conquered me?” “Then,” replied the other, “I would have placed Hannibal, not only before Alexander and Pyrrhus, but before all other commanders.”
This answer, turned with Punic dexterity, and conveying an unexpected kind of flattery, was highly grateful to Scipio, as it set him apart from the crowd of commanders, as one of incomparable eminence.
Looking back at history, it seems to me that ALL humans are equally brutal. Some have better press than others.
Who were the original people of Rome? They surely weren’t Italians?
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