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My Two Cents on Revolvers and Gunfighting
Am Shooting Journal ^ | 4/8/2021 | P Pawela

Posted on 04/08/2021 8:17:31 AM PDT by w1n1

Lessons from Yesteryear that still Apply Today - Due to the political climate and potential gun bans, revolvers have become fashionable for concealed carry once again. So I thought I would add my two cents on the subject.
The first thing that needs to be addressed is why we are 1) practicing with revolvers (or any gun for that matter), and 2) carrying them. Yes, shooting guns safely both in practice and competition is fun, but really the intent is for self-defense purposes.

Many a well-known lawman of yesteryear made the revolver famous, including James Butler Hickok aka Wild Bill, Wyatt Earp, Frank Hamer, Bill Jordan, Jim Cirillo and Edmundo Mireles Jr. These men are all legends in the law enforcement world and have the most quantified performance and experience using revolvers, as they used them for their intended purpose: surviving gunfights.

IN REGARDS to Hickok, Earp, Hamer and Jordan, all references and advice in this article are from their written accounts, as these men were born before my time. However, the late Jimmy Cirillo and Edmundo Mireles are another matter, as I have interviewed, trained with and become friends with both. Cirillo’s book, Guns, Bullets, and Gunfights: Lessons and Tales from a Modern-Day Gunfighter, should be required reading, as should Mireles's book, FBI Miami Firefight: Five Minutes That Changed the Bureau. These books should not just be read, but reread, highlighted and used as a bible on the subject of gunfighting. Mireles and his FBI team were in that horrible gunfight and are the true fathers of reality gunfighting training.

Cirillo, meanwhile, was part of the famed New York City Police Department stakeout squad whose unit was involved in 252 armed confrontations. Cirillo himself was involved in 17 armed confrontations, including 11 gunfights that resulted in the deaths of 11 felons.

Hickok was said to be a virtuoso with any kind of handgun. When Tom Lewis, a magazine writer who knew many famous gunfighters of the Old West, asked Earp, Bat Masterson, Billy Tilghman and Charlie Siringo who was the deadliest shot of them all, all four without hesitation said Wild Bill.

As a lawman, Hickok was described as a walking arsenal, originally sporting a pair of .44s (carrying a backup gun is something most gun aficionados do; you will see this again). He also carried two .41 Derringers in his side pockets, a Bowie knife in his belt, and either a shotgun or repeating rifle in his arms when walking the beat as a police officer. Hickok believed in firepower and it was reported that when he cut loose, it sounded like a Gatling gun spraying the landscape. It was rumored Hickok did that for psychological effect, as such a fusillade was often necessary not only to dispose of one opponent but to dissuade the man’s friends from joining in the argument.

As a civilian, his very first lethal encounter was against three men, of which he killed one and wounded two. Hickok would often come up against multiple adversaries in these encounters. Hickok was a firm believer in shooting his antagonists in the head, saying, "A man shot in the torso can keep firing, even if fatally wounded, but a bullet in the head usually put him out of action." In FBI Miami Firefight, Mireles describes how one cop killer was shot a total of 12 times before he stopped fighting and died. The other was shot six times and died quicker. Why? He was shot four times in the head and neck! Read the rest of revolvers and gunfighting.


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To: Larry Lucido

I wasn’t aware of any official rules list(other than general behavior)that dictates how freepers must participate in order to stay off this list obviously meant shame site members...do you have a link to these rules?


41 posted on 04/08/2021 7:37:20 PM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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To: w1n1

As a certified pistol instructor...the first rule of carrying a self defense fire arm is...carry what you are comfortable and proficient with....be it a 22 revolver or a semi auto desert eagle .50...

Statically most encounters were a firearm is fired in self its 2 shots with 6 ft...

I’m not a big fan of semi autos myself..


42 posted on 04/08/2021 7:47:17 PM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Yes...Reeves doesn’t fit the Left’s narrative.


43 posted on 04/08/2021 7:52:41 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (The 2020 election Trump victory determines the fate f America and Freedom.)
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To: Crim; w1n1

The “Post and Run” ping list is specifically spambots who are always “1 of x” on their posting history and never reply to posts. Every post is clickbait to his or her own blog or a blog for who he or she is a spambot. The fact that the spambot doesn’t bother leaving a “tip” for use of FR bandwidth for incessant spamming doesn’t help.

I add “to be removed, reply to this post.” One has replied. One has replied and donated. Just for what it’s worth.

As far as the “rules,” Jim Robinson has posted that he wished folks would not excerpt their own blogs (i.e. blog pimping) but there is no specific rule. If I had a blog, I would not excerpt it. I do invite folks who are spambots to donate during FReepathons, though.

Now, this particular OP, w1n1, is a peculiar sort. Cannot write to save his life. Any well-written article is likely to be copied and pasted from somewhere else. I’ve often caught this blog plagiarizing others’ works and pointing it out here. I stopped bothering. For me the last straw was when w1n1 posted a work where the author shot rounds at his wife’s chest while she was wearing a ballistic vest to show the effectiveness of the vest. I just threw up my arms regarding this stupid-assed blog.


44 posted on 04/08/2021 8:29:58 PM PDT by Larry Lucido (Donate! Don't just post clickbait!)
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To: vis a vis
Episode 165: Up from Slavery by Booker T. Washington, February 2, 2021. John J. Miller is joined by Desmond Jagmohan of the University of California at Berkeley to discuss Booker T. Washington’s “Up from Slavery.”

Direct link to National Review.

45 posted on 04/08/2021 9:37:59 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (The Weak Never Started, The Cowards fail along the way, Only the Strong Survive)
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To: w1n1

Wyatt Earp was not a fast draw. He was a very accurate shot though. He once said that he never expected to out-draw anyone, but fast does not mean accurate.


46 posted on 04/09/2021 4:13:41 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Neither safety nor security exists in nature. Everything is dangerous and has risk.)
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To: Larry Lucido; Crim

He also used to post graphic images of gunshot wounds under the category ‘humor’.


47 posted on 04/09/2021 4:53:08 AM PDT by real saxophonist (Yeah, well, y'know that's just like, uhh... your opinion, man)
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To: Joe 6-pack

I left the embellishment to the Aussies, they’re pros at spicing stories up.
The blood droplets on the magazine’s pages were a nice touch. :)


48 posted on 04/09/2021 10:47:37 AM PDT by kanawa ((Securing the 2022/2024 elections is of paramount importance.))
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To: Yo-Yo

That guy is what we in the gaming world would call a ‘bullet sponge’.


49 posted on 04/09/2021 10:52:23 AM PDT by kanawa ((Securing the 2022/2024 elections is of paramount importance.))
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Thanks for posting that. I’ll be following it.
I use Booker T. Washington quotes quite often.

I am regularly blocked from posting when sharing his writing, due to the presence of words
that Mr. Washington used that are now deemed unacceptable by cancel culture morons.


50 posted on 04/09/2021 11:33:28 AM PDT by kanawa ((Securing the 2022/2024 elections is of paramount importance.))
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To: kanawa

Wow, that is shocking about his words getting cancelled


51 posted on 04/09/2021 4:18:45 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (The Weak Never Started, The Cowards fail along the way, Only the Strong Survive)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

This guy was truly amazing. He was illiterate but had a photographic mind.
Once he memorized your stats, you were finished.


52 posted on 04/09/2021 4:26:54 PM PDT by ZULU (Impeach John Roberts for corruption. SOROS IS "SPARTACUS" BOOKER'S LANISTA.)
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