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The logical argument that Fauci, Moderna, Pfizer and others may have fabricated fake Covid-19 vaccine trials and reported falsified data
3/24/2021 | vanity

Posted on 03/24/2021 10:34:34 AM PDT by ransomnote

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To: ransomnote
...90% of PCR results are false positives...

Amazing that you can post something so obviously wrong and easily refuted and still soldier on as if you have any credibility.

The current PCR test positivity rate, actual and false, is 4.4%. The highest it ever was is 21%.

I'd rather have people read your sneering posts implying I'm incapable of responding to you, than actually spend my time refuting your obvious distortions.

I bet.

You seem to be getting a little agitated and we're about the last ones on this thread so I'll see you around.

161 posted on 03/25/2021 12:10:57 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: House Atreides; bagster
Wow, you provide a quote from the fiction writer ransomnote that contains three falsehoods that you’re including in the smoke you’re blowing. I’ll clear those falsehoods up.

1. The virus causing the DISEASE COVID-19 has been identified and isolated. The name scientists gave given that isolated virus is SARS-CoV-2.

2. Each individual SARS-CoV-2 virus is covered with many identical copies of the virus’ spike protein. It’s that unique spike protein that the mRNA vaccines cause the immune system to produce antibodies for.

3. So, no, the vaccine makers didn’t “chose a spike protein for another type of corona virus”.

Got more smoke to blow?
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Bagster, how did you get House Atreides stuck to your shoe? 


 According to Moderna, "Recognizing the broad potential of mRNA science, we set out to create an mRNA technology platform that functions very much like an operating system on a computer. It is designed so that it can plug and play interchangeably with different programs. In our case, the "program” or “app” is our mRNA drug - the unique mRNA sequence that codes for a protein.

 

 

mRNA Platform: Enabling Drug Discovery & Development

3/25/2021, 12:21:32 PM · by ransomnote · 4 replies
modernatx.com ^ | 3/25/2020 | MODERNA

Note that 'selection of the spike protein' occurs through the manufacturer's selection of the mRNA sequence for their 'vaccine', which for Moderna occurred on the timeline below on January 13, 2020 and was done with the help of Anthony Fauci's division at NIH.

 


"Most of the vaccines under development for COVID-19 only show the immune system part of the virus, a protein chosen to prime a strong immune response. (This includes the Pfizer mRNA vaccine.) So, someone who had naturally been infected with the virus might have some additional antibody types not found in someone who had been successfully vaccinated."

Antibodies From Vaccines vs. From Natural Infection (verywellhealth.com)


According to the CDC, no isolated samples of the Covid-19 virus exist. The image below cites a July 2020 document but researchers continue to say their requests for isolated samples are denied because they are "unavailable". This limitation harms the race to develop drug treatments, leaving the field open to vaccine makers.

One problem is that the vaccine triggers the production of anti-bodies that are different from the anti-bodies caused by natural Covid-19 infection. This apparently is highy sensitive information that is being scrupulously scrubbed from the internet.

Here's an example of a doctor who died weeks after receiving the 2nd does of the vaccine. He had one type of antibody from the vaccine, and another from the natural Covid infection. I do remember reading about instances where the antibodies developed in response to natural vs vaccine spike protein in the middle of last year, but that kind of lets the cat out of the bag and history is now being rewritten. 


162 posted on 03/25/2021 12:55:39 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: ransomnote
Bagster, how did you get House Atreides stuck to your shoe?

I paid attention to him. I think that's all the little fella every really wanted.

Now I have to feed him and walk him and pick up his poo.

Grrrrrrrrrrr.


163 posted on 03/25/2021 1:08:00 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: ransomnote

“...According to the CDC, no isolated samples of the Covid-19 virus exist....”
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The disease named COVID-19 is caused by the virus given the name SARS-CoV-2. And the CDC has, in fact, long since ISOLATED the SARS-CoV-2 virus in the laboratory and routinely makes it readily available for research by the scientific and medical community.

Here is the timeline for those efforts:

1. On January 20, 2020, CDC received a clinical specimen collected from the first reported U.S. patient infected with SARS-CoV-2. CDC immediately placed the specimen into cell culture to grow a sufficient amount of virus for study.

2. On February 2, 2020, CDC generated enough SARS-CoV-2 grown in cell culture to distribute to medical and scientific researchers.

3. On February 4, 2020, CDC shipped SARS-CoV-2 to the BEI Resources Repository.

Here is a link with supporting information on the isolation of the virus that causes COVID-19.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/lab/grows-virus-cell-culture.html


164 posted on 03/25/2021 1:21:24 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: David Chase
but that might be asking for way to much.

A man who can't spell 'too' properly has no credibility.

If I were to dissect that mish mash of illogic you just posted, I'd be here all day, so let me just leave you with this about that.

Doctors used to think that sucking the blood out of a sick person would remove the evil spirits that were making them sick.

The moral of that bit of historical trivia is to illustrate that doctors are not gods and they don't know everything just cause they went to school and were taught by other doctors that didn't know everything. Some more or less than others, more competent or less than others.

So you can kiss doctors' collective asses as much as you like, but I'll add common sense and my own personal knowledge of my own body (which I've known for man years on a close personal level) to the mix.

Guess what my common sense tells me? Don't take drugs unless you absolutely, POSTIVELEY have to. And this rona does not fall into that category, no matter how many unqualified Fauci's, stupid Biden's, or even Trumps tell me to. And certainly not a horde of wanna-be, fake doctors on FR squeaking about vitamin D day after day.

Ransomnote's 'hidden talent'?

Research. Any topic. This one happens to be the fake vaccine. The information is out there to be had. A person could earn an unofficial medical degree off the internet and save themselves tens of thousands of dollars.

They might have trouble getting the government to allow them to practice medicine, but they can have the knowledge for free, or the low, low price of a monthly internet subscription.

So that's what she can do, and better than most. At least here on FR. And she has a minor in communication.

You are not good at recognizing people's 'hidden talents', and its a thing you think you invented and have thought a lot about over your life.

You would have done well to attend the University of Life's Human Behavior and Psychology program. It would have allowed you to better recognize a person's traits.

Okay, that's what jumps out at me from reading your post. I won't go do the cut and paste quote thing. Oh, one more thing. I don't think Ransomnote cares one way or the other if you like her or not or what you have to say about what she does. Your opinion would have to be important to her for her to care. It is not.

I know this because I know her, and I feel the same way as she does.

I do wonder what your purpose is for kissing her ass on the one hand, and slamming her and what she finds important all over FR. I really don't wonder. I know. PHD, remember?

Okay, Chase. You have stolen enough of my time with your psuedo psychological wrong-headed musings.


165 posted on 03/25/2021 1:32:47 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: semimojo; ransomnote
You seem to be getting a little agitated and we're about the last ones on this thread so I'll see you around.

The nerd version of 'U mad bro'. Touche.

Mojo...dude...she's kicking your ass. Maybe you better step back.

But you know doctors, so maybe you'll come back in the later rounds.

Hahahaha.


166 posted on 03/25/2021 1:41:09 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: House Atreides; ransomnote
To House Harkonnen: Just as I suspected. Ransomnote dropped in to smack down your weak understanding of 'the science'.

How's it feel to get beat up by a girl?

To Ransomnote:

There's no way he understand ANY of that. He'll be right back with his weak ass argument (I kinda don't, and I'm way smarter than him). I think we should just let him run around in the back yard and work it off for a while.


167 posted on 03/25/2021 1:47:54 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: semimojo
We have massive evidence...

A normal man would say 'They have lots of evidence...'

A pretentious man would say, 'We have lots of evidence...'

Which one are you?


168 posted on 03/25/2021 1:51:12 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: cyberstoic

Wrong. If you are thinking of the three big spikes from late November to mid-January, that was the large-scale holiday foolishness. Of course the number went down after that series of travesties.

We are due for spikes again but they won’t be as high this time because vaccine. Then the warm weather will help us out again.


169 posted on 03/25/2021 1:59:37 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: bagster

I do know the difference between to, and too.
Also there, their, and they’re. Your, and You’re.
In fact, when my wife and are frisky, my “Safe Word” is “Their” but she doesn’t know if I’m saying there or they’re, or their.

I was becoming preoccupied and the “To” rather than “Too” was an oversight. So their.

Funny you mentioned Bleeding as a medical treatment administered by Doctors way back when..........whenever a Doc encourages or nags me to quit smoking I often explain that many of our Founding Fathers were in the tobacco business in some way. Adams and Jefferson both lived into their 80s (and both died on the same day, July 4th) but Washington died of medical malpractice as they bled him to help his pneumonia.
I also explain that the ancient Egyptians never smoked and ya don’t see any of them walking around right now.......

The Hidden Talent thing......yes I did invent it. Something I noticed about people. It’s actually interesting because it’s amazing on how so many people are in roles, or careers where their best talent does not apply and isn’t being put to use.

Never claimed to know Ransomnote’s hidden talent, I agree though, her obvious talent is communication.

Saying that I think someone isn’t a cruel person and seems kind at heart isn’t exactly my idea of kissing ass. It’s merely describing someone’s outwardly behavior.
I have no reason for complimenting Ransomnote other than i believe it.

Often you seem to think there is always a motive behind people’s beliefs, and or comments. It seems to never occur to you that perhaps the motive is the truth, as a person may see it.
I wonder if at some point in your life you were surrounded by people the betrayed you or people that were deceptive towards you and you never recovered from that.
Just because someone doesn’t parrot you, doesn’t mean they’re secretly plotting or using “psych-ops” against you.

Getting back on track.......there are 5 or 6 Doctors here on FR. They are in different fields of medicine. As far as I know, they’re also in different parts of the country. Funny on how all agree on the vaccine issue and all have been vaccinated.

Perhaps refresh yourself with the years of school and internship a Doctor must complete. Also, a FR Doc is older and not a Millennial Doctor that was passed year after year just for sitting through the classes.

So basically you expect me and others to push Ransomnote forward past all of the years of Medical School and experience because she does great research. Ummmmmm no.

Again, I’m not bashing Ransomnote, I’m simple saying WebMD.com is no substitute for 8 years of college and internship.

I our relationship is really advancing well Mr. Bagster. This was the first reply to one of my post that did not include Troll, Derp, Fearmonger, Deepstater, or Democrat Operative.
Warms my heart.


170 posted on 03/25/2021 2:27:56 PM PDT by David Chase
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To: David Chase
Often you seem to think there is always a motive behind people’s beliefs

There never is not.

Truth is not a motive. Truth is a state of being.

I wonder if at some point in your life you were surrounded by people the betrayed you or people that were deceptive towards you and you never recovered from that. Just because someone doesn’t parrot you, doesn’t mean they’re secretly plotting or using “psych-ops” against you.

A very poor Dr. Phil impression.

As far as I know, they’re also in different parts of the country. Funny on how all agree on the vaccine issue and all have been vaccinated.

And guess what. Every one of them could be wrong. At the same time. Doctor's, not gods, remember?

And doctors are not immune to indoctrination, social pressure, and psyops.

So basically you expect me and others to push Ransomnote forward past all of the years of Medical School and experience because she does great research. Ummmmmm no.

Here's what I invented, derp troll (happy?). Examine the information, not the messenger. Evaluate the messenger's possible agenda, honesty, and sources then look at the INFORMATION and use your own brain to suss it.

Reliance on the 'experts' just because they're experts, believing EVERYTHING they say categorically is a foolish way to live your life. That is the life of a sponge. Sponges have no brains. Or feet.

So, yea. Nobody's 'pushing' Ransomnote, Q, or anybody else forward over anybody else. The smart money is on evaluating information gleaned from ANYBODY and ANYWHERE.

Too many FR know-it-alls dismiss information because they don't approve of the messenger. This is one reason they hate us poor, innocent Qtards, who wouldn't hurt a fly.

Okay, enough.


171 posted on 03/25/2021 2:46:14 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: David Chase
Almost forgot.

I (think) our relationship is really advancing well, Mr. Bagster.

No, I won't be going to the prom with you.

#NoHomo


172 posted on 03/25/2021 2:48:38 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: ransomnote

Whatever. Don’t get the vaccine


173 posted on 03/25/2021 2:52:03 PM PDT by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston? )
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To: AppyPappy
Old people shouldn't do the 'whatever' thing.

Its a bad look.

Happy vaxxing.

#WhatsYourMutation


174 posted on 03/25/2021 3:02:39 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: bagster

Hi Eschoir


175 posted on 03/25/2021 4:23:45 PM PDT by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston? )
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To: AppyPappy
Hi Sexy Green Eyed Blonde.


176 posted on 03/25/2021 4:41:33 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: bagster

Classy Green Eyed Blonde.

Check your lore.


177 posted on 03/25/2021 4:47:12 PM PDT by Mr.Unique
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To: Mr.Unique
I thought she was sexy.


178 posted on 03/25/2021 4:48:41 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: AppyPappy

Eschoir is deceased.


179 posted on 03/25/2021 6:01:18 PM PDT by miserare ( Respect for life--life of all kinds-- is the first principle of civilization.~~A. Schweitzer.)
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To: David Chase

You’re lying again.
Memes are not proof; they are what in the 1960s, the radicals called “consciousness-raising” ; akin to brand awareness for a product.
One has to get buzz around a concept onto the radar of the average person.
The left excels at it, which is why they got most of the women to hate Sarah Palin (the left defined her in the public mind), but could not with Donald Trump (he’d been a public figure for years, ‘That loudmouth real estate developer from New York who says “You’re Fired!” on TV).
This is using the left’s own tactics against them.


180 posted on 03/26/2021 9:04:14 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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