Posted on 12/21/2020 3:33:50 PM PST by rxsid
I want to thank everyone at American Thinker for publishing my piece over there today:
“Who has the power to appoint presidential electors?”
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/12/who_has_the_power_to_appoint_presidential_electors.htmlhttps://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/12/who_has_the_power_to_appoint_presidential_electors.html
A few more thoughts on the piece. First, if you haven’t read it, please go to AT and do so. Then ponder this:
Will. That’s all it will take. Will. Self-convene by phone, video-conference, in person, anywhere, and set this election straight by choosing Presidential Electors for Trump.
Inferior officials have refused to obey your subpoenas in Arizona. The Wisconsin Supreme Court has just held that laws enacted to protect handicapped voters were trampled on by Wisconsin Election Officials and voters. In Pennsylvania, a United States Supreme Court order to segregate ballots was ignored, and the Legislature’s laws as to ballot deadlines were usurped. In Georgia, the Secretary of State unilaterally did away with the Legislature’s enactments on signature matching. In Nevada, and elsewhere, tens of thousands of people voted twice, or voted after death. All of the above took strong will.
But that was the will to break the law. You, State Legislatures, must now have the will to enforce the law. Your decision is to enforce the law, or to condone the will used to break the law. Those are your only two options.
The Legislatures were given plenary authority to police the appointment of Presidential Electors. That’s the Legislatures’ enforcement power. Call all of their bluffs now. You are terrible poker players if you fold America’s winning hand. The Florida Legislature called all bluffs in 2000, and they were praised for it.
And what about time? 3 U.S.C. § 7 set the time when the electors should meet and give their ballots. But the time is based on all electors having been appointed first. If a state is contested, especially by factions of its own Legislature, as in Arizona now, then the electors have not been finally appointed.
See my previous report, where I explain in detail why December 14th was not set in stone by 3 U.S.C. § 7. Most analysts have misinterpreted the statute. Let’s read it two ways; first, as it is written, then, as it has been misinterpreted:
“The electors of President and Vice President of each State shall meet and give their votes on the first Monday after the second Wednesday in December next following their appointment…“
If Arizona, or Michigan, or any State, discovered serious fraud that would change the election result, they would have the right and duty to fix the fraud. Let’s say, for example, that Arizona did a forensic audit of Dominion machines in Maricopa County, and it showed fraud, and by correcting the result, Trump has a clear victory.
On Dec. 22nd, the Legislature of Arizona orders the appointment of Trump electors. The second Wednesday in December “next following their appointment” is Dec 30, and the first Monday after that is January 4th.
Now let’s examine how most folks are reading 3 U.S.C. § 7:
“The electors of President and Vice President of each State shall meet and give their votes on the first Monday after the second Wednesday in December…”
Full stop. They don’t read the next few words. You see? Most people stop at December, and they ignore “next following their appointment”. Without these words, 3 U.S.C. § 7 would set a date in stone each cycle, just as Congress did with 3 U.S.C. § 1, which states:
“The electors of President and Vice President shall be appointed, in each State, on the Tuesday next after the first Monday in November, in every fourth year succeeding every election of a President and Vice President.”
Federal Election Day is set in stone each cycle by the statute. You can look at the statute, look at a calendar, and put your finger on the exact day prescribed by law. You cannot do that with 3 U.S.C. § 7, because you need more information than just the statute and a calendar. You need the date all electors were finally appointed.
For example, had all Presidential Electors been appointed on November 3rd, 2020, then the first Monday after the second Wednesday in December “next following their appointment” would have been December 14th. But all Presidential Electors were not appointed on November 3rd. Appointment is contested in multiple States.
Just because one branch of state government usurps the plenary authority of a state Legislature, and barrels over them in seating electors prematurely, does not erase the plenary authority of the Legislature to police Presidential Election fraud.
So, 3 U.S.C. § 7 has a floating date built into its formula, based upon the day when every State in the Union has finally appointed the electors determined by the Legislature. If the Legislature is still unsure, and it is still investigating, then no final appointment shall have taken place.
LOOKING PAST JANUARY 6th
Now let’s look past January 6th. And let’s imagine that the United States Supreme Court issues an order after its January 8, 2021 conference, stating that no votes in Pennsylvania can be counted which arrived after the time set by its Legislature for the Presidential Election to end, which was 8 P.M., Nov. 3rd. And let’s assume that two other states see their results overturned by their Legislatures, or the Supreme Court, after January 6th, but before January 20th? What happens then?
Read the Twentieth Amendment, § 3:
“If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President…”
That’s the Constitution of the United States, folks. Nobody knows what that means, because the United States Supreme Court hasn’t fully interpreted Section 3 yet.
But understand this: the Pennsylvania GOP case has been “DISTRIBUTED for conference 01/08/2021″ at SCOTUS. So maybe the Court will interpret Section 3 soon enough. Until January 20th, high noon, we are in muddy Constitutional waters.
LOOKING PAST JANUARY 20th
After a wrongful election, where one candidate takes office, there’s always the possibility of a Writ of Quo Warranto. Some have argued that only impeachment and conviction in the Senate can remove a sitting President President. But if you get a Writ of Quo Warranto issued, that means the White House occupant it’s issued against was never actually President. Their holding the Office of President becomes a nullity. The person has not technically been “removed” from office, but rather, a Writ of Quo Warranto acts as if that person was never President to begin with.
There is a line of cases that issue Writs of Quo Warranto for false election results caused by fraudulent or faulty tabulation machines, after the wrong person takes office:
“Challenges to the outcome of a general election based upon alleged voting machine malfunctions necessarily fall within the purview of quo warranto.” Matter of Delgado v. Sunderland, 97 N.Y. 2d 420 (2002), 767 N.E. 2d 662.
Here is the federal Quo Warranto statute:
“A quo warranto may be issued from the United States District Court for the District of Columbia in the name of the United States against a person who within the District of Columbia usurps, intrudes into, or unlawfully holds or exercises, a franchise conferred by the United States or a public office of the United States, civil or military.”
If President Trump has the will to keep fighting, then this horrific saga in United States election history still has a very long road to go before the final result is determined.
compulsion versus command
It is sad and I am disgusted to no end. They are there to represent us but they don’t give a hoot.
I'm in.
I'm not a constituent of Senator Borrelli, but he spoke at the rally in Phoenix yesterday and, believe me, he HEAVILY involved in this thing. My reps are too. I'm blessed to live in one of the reddist areas of Mesa, maybe even the whole state. Trump signs everywhere.
The people of Arizona need to follow the patriots of Oregon’s lead. Arm up and storm the buildings. The country is a joke and enough is enough. We’re all asleep and the assault on us continues. By the time enough people wake up it will be to late. I think we may have already crossed the point of no return.
What exactly is your problem? You go from election thread to election thread to drop bird shit on various people.
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You're saying we can't count on you then...
I didn't say we need to start a revolution...I was saying that would be the only and last card on the table...And of course we couldn't win...
When they come to get our guns we will hand them over or they will blow our houses up, with us in them...
I believe Trump is making a mistake not going after the voting machines...We know we can’t trust the Supreme Court but if he had the evidence to show the American people how the election was a fraud, we might be far better off...
Just keep moving along folks, don’t you have a NFL game to watch? The US Supremes don’t care, The networks have already called the election, and there is nothing to see here. S/.
It may come to that, but I'm thinking the patriots in PA and Georgia, etc. need do the same. We haven't lost hope here in Arizona, but it seems like other places have rolled over.
What exactly is your problem? You go from election thread to election thread to drop bird shit on various people.
The Arizona State Legislature Must Invoke Nuclear Option To Choose Electors, Since Subpoena Was Ignored
The claim that the subpoena was ignored is simply untrue. The subpoena itself is not a Judicial subpoena but a Legislative subpoena, served upon an element of the Executive branch. It is subject to challenge under separation of powers.
The Executive did not ignore the subpoena but challenged its validity in a lawsuit. The lawsuit is Maricopa County et al v. Karen Fann, in her official capacity as President of the Arizona Senate et al, in the Superior Court of the State of Arizona, in and for the County of Maricopa. The COMPLAINT is dated December 18, 2020.
https://www.maricopa.gov/DocumentCenter/View/65534/Complaint
The COMPLAINT at 12 argues:
59. A legislative subpoena is proper only if it, first, is authorized by ordinance or similar enactment, second, serves a valid legislative purpose, and third, the witnesses or material subpoenaed are pertinent to the subject matter of the investigation. Conn. Indem. Co. v. Superior Court, 23 Cal. 4th 807, 813, 3 P.3d 868, 872 (citing Wilkinson v. United States, 365 U.S. 399, 408-409 (1961)).60. The Subpoenas at issue here fail each of these three requirements.
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