Posted on 08/30/2020 8:08:07 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
Last night we posted an article about COVID-19 – SHOCK REPORT: This Week CDC Quietly Updated COVID-19 Numbers – Only 9,210 Americans Died From COVID-19 Alone – Rest Had Different Other Serious Illnesses
The gist of the article is that COVID-19 is not nearly as deadly as first projected by the WHO and then by Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx. Based on CDC numbers this past week only 6% of all deaths attributed to COVID-19 were instances where the only factor in the individual’s death was due to COVI9-19.
From the CDC website.
For all the other deaths reported by the CDC linked to COVID-19, the individuals who passed away had 2-3 other serious illnesses or co-morbidities. This comes from actual data from the CDC and was tweeted by Mel Q on Twitter.
Mel Q shared a calculation which showed that 6% of all COVID-19 deaths as reported by the CDC was only 9,201 deaths.
Only 9,201 people died in the US this year where COVID-19 was their only cause of death.
We used Mel Q’s tweet in our report and the President of the United States retweeted Mel Q’s tweet as well.
But today Twitter took down the tweet. They notified Mel Q that the tweet that used actual CDC data “violated their policy on misleading information about COVID-19.” Her account was suspended from posting for 12 hours.
Next CNN wrote an article about this calculation, the President’s retweet and our article entitled – Twitter removes QAnon supporter’s false claim about coronavirus death statistics that Trump had retweeted
They also tweeted out their work:
Twitter has taken down a tweet containing a false claim about coronavirus death statistics that was made by a supporter of the baseless QAnon conspiracy theory — a post that President Trump retweeted earlier in the day https://t.co/QL65Bjw0Fe
— CNN (@CNN) August 30, 2020
Of course they never approached us about their garbage post. Here is what CNN reported:
Twitter on Sunday took down a tweet containing a false claim about coronavirus death statistics that was made by a supporter of the baseless QAnon conspiracy theory — a post that President Donald Trump had retweeted earlier in the day.
The tweet — which has been replaced with a message saying, “This Tweet is no longer available because it violated the Twitter Rules — from “Mel Q,” copied from someone else’s Facebook post, claimed that the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention had “quietly” updated its numbers “to admit that only 6%” of people listed as coronavirus deaths “actually died from Covid,” since “the other 94% had 2-3 other serious illnesses.”That’s not what the CDC said.
As of Sunday at 4 p.m. ET, Twitter had not removed a second tweet, also retweeted by the President on Sunday, that spread the same false claim. The second tweet, by Trump campaign adviser Jenna Ellis, linked to an article on the right-wing website Gateway Pundit that was based on the QAnon supporter’s tweet.
In CNN’s very first sentence they make a false premise. CNN claims Mel Q’s tweet was false but that is not true – it’s based on actual CDC data from the CDC website.
CNN then makes another false statement claiming the CDC said something other that what the CDC actually reported.
And in their third paragraph CNN claims our post and tweet about the topic is false as well.
Next CNN uses liberal logic and assumptions as the basis for why Mel Q’s tweet and our post are incorrect.
CNN reported:
The CDC’s latest regular update to a public statistics page on the pandemic — there was nothing especially “quiet” about it — said that for 6% of the deaths included in its statistics, “Covid-19 was the only cause mentioned” on the deceased person’s death certificate.
That is not at all the same thing as saying only 6% of reported Covid-19 deaths “actually died” from Covid-19. It simply means that the other 94% were listed as having at least one additional factor contributing to their death.
CNN makes the assumption that we were saying none of the other 94% of deaths classified as COVID-19 deaths were not COVID-19 related deaths. That is not what we said. What we did say is that only 9,201 deaths were related only to COVID-19.
CNN then makes that broad statement that 94% of the deaths listed had at least one additional factor. This is true but the CDC is clear that the average number of other issues (co-morbidities) related to the deaths they counted as COVID-19 deaths is 2.6 – meaning most people who died had closer to three other “conditions or causes” related to their death.
CNN then finishes with this baseless statement:
The CDC told CNN in July that Covid-19 will end up as a Top 10 cause of death for 2020. The final ranking from the CDC will be based on death certificates for the calendar year.
This statement has nothing to do with our article or Mel Q’s tweet and actually supports what we are saying. If the CDC continues count COVID-19 deaths and then add thousands of additional deaths to their numbers which they assume were related to COVID-19, then COVID-19 will be one of the top 10 causes of deaths in the US this year.
To be fair, the CDC has done a horrible job with their reporting related to COVID-19. It would be easy for the CDC to provide data on deaths that could protect identities but provide for a more detailed analysis of results. But it’s likely the CDC doesn’t want us to know the real implications of COVID-19.
It only means people who test positive for the virus but 98%+ of those people either aren't sick, had the illness and recovered or are not symptomatic. It's disingenuous to call those people "new" cases.
This whole thing has been misreported and overblown to scare people and to give governors and mayors cover for implementing their drastic measures to stop the virus.
It appears more and more like this was done so some people could profit and to blame Trump for not handling the response in a timely and effective manner.
Everything Fauci advised to do turns out to be the opposite of what should have been done. The mysterious disappearance and demonizing of the inexpensive drug hydroxychloroquine for treatment convinced me that something didn't smell right. The drug has been safely used for 70 years with little or not problems but all of the sudden it's dangerous to take for Covid-19?
We've been duped, gamed and lied to by the government "experts".
Yes. Something we knew all along.
The truth is not allowed in Marxist America (such as CNN).
The CDC said that 6% of the death certificates listed COVID-19 as the only cause of death (COD). Should be 0% as no one dies from having the COVID virus, you die from the effects/symptoms of having the COVID virus (”Comorbidities”)....as listed on most death certificates as “UCOD” (”underlying cause(s) of death”) in addition to the causative COVID-19.
The primary means of COVID-19 death are viral (COVID) pneumonia, ARDS, low blood oxygen levels, blood clots, hypertensive disease, cardiac arrest, etc, etc.....apparently about 6% of doctors/coroners just put “COVID-19” on the death certificate (to be brief/obvious I guess).
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/vsrg/vsrg03-508.pdf
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm
Re: “Could be wrong but I think that the excess deaths chart tells the actual story.”
That should be true, but the CDC appears to be using two sets of books.
Item - the current 2020 CDC “All Deaths” number shows an explosion in pneumonia deaths (+75,000) compared to 2019.
However, at the same time, the CDC has instructed USA doctors to count 100% of pneumonia + COVID-19 deaths as exclusively COVID-19 deaths!
So, where did the 75,000 extra pneumonia deaths come from?
Not from influenza. Not from severe common colds.
The USA is in its typical summer lull for normal respiratory diseases.
COVID-19 is the only respiratory infection that is circulating.
read post 18.
In that case, would you be in favor of re-counting influenza and common cold deaths exactly the same way we now count COVID deaths?
For instance - 100% of pneumonia + COVID deaths are counted as exclusively COVID deaths.
Compare that to influenza + pneumonia deaths. Just 5%-10% of those deaths are counted as exclusively influenza deaths.
GP is consistently clickbait BS... even when they have a point!
saving for later
It can be counted.
There are medical data codes to classify various kinds of substance abuse on death certificates, either as comorbidities or as the Underlying Cause of Death.
My guess is that thousands of fatal ODs have been classified as COVID deaths, but we will not know until we get convenient and free public access to the Death Certificates that the CDC counts.
Weekly Updates by Select Demographic and Geographic Characteristics
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm
Table 3
Comorbidities
Table 3 shows the types of health conditions and contributing causes mentioned in conjunction with deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 2.6 additional conditions or causes per death. The number of deaths with each condition or cause is shown for all deaths and by age groups.
RE: GP is consistently clickbait BS... even when they have a point!
OK, can you tell us which part of their analysis is BS and which part has a point?
Nothing about 6%?
Simple:
100% total(actually overstated by 10% ??)
-94% with co-morbidity
6% without co-morbidity
Covid’s virus CAUSES many of the co-morbidities.
CAUSES.
So it’s stupid clickbait to claim these comorbidities are something else besides a result of the virus.
Lie, lie , lie... for clicks.
Their “point” is that this shows the different metrics for death used across nations.
The kicker??
Average number of co-morbidities? 2.6 (translation? very sick before Covid19)
You cannot discount that.
And the hospitals were paid extreme amount for Covid19 patients, so with or without test many states made everyone with a cough a Corona Virus patient. Look at NY??
Why do you assume covid19 is the primary cause in the remaining 94%.? Look at the other comorbidites. Diabetes,Hypertension,Obesity and advanced age figure heavily in the totals. The same causes that kill in a bad Flu season. Remember 7700 die in the US in normal times every day. People die all the time its no
Then there's this category
Intentional and unintentional injury, poisoning and other adverse events.
That means suicide, auto accident, gunshot or even falling off a cliff etc are figured in as CV19 deaths if the body tested positive. So by that logic you accept if you OD or drive drunk, plow into a tree and test positive CV19 killed you.
I lived through the Asian Flu in the late 50’s and the Hong Kong flu in the 60’s. I had both and they killed more than CV19 We never did to ourselves what happened with CV19.
Correction: People die all the time its normal
I predict
CoVid will miraculously disappear on Nov. 5th. No masks will be required and no more reported cases will be reported.
I can't find raw data for the 6% number, either.
However, the same paragraph that mentions 6% does link to a Table that verifies the “2.6 comorbidity average.”
“Conditions contributing to deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), by age group and state, United States.”
https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Conditions-contributing-to-deaths-involving-corona/hk9y-quqm
The Table is at the bottom of the linked page.
The Table is hard to understand. It took me more than half an hour to figure out how to verify the 2.6 average. I will explain how it works if you struggle with it, too.
Almost no one ever asks the most important question of all...
What percentage of Death Certificates that list COVID as a comorbidity also list COVID as the Underlying Cause of Death (UCOD)?
My own guess - close to 100%, but I have almost no hard data to back that up.
My point?
Compare that to influenza, which is only the UCOD on 5%-10% of Death Certificates after being listed as a comorbidity.
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