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Poll: What’s more important, the property of a business owner, or the life of someone who tries to burn down that business?
wordpress ^ | August 30, 2020 | Dan from Squirrel Hill

Posted on 08/30/2020 1:14:19 PM PDT by grundle

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To: grundle

The property. To answer otherwise is to destroy law & order in America. If you are killed while committing a crime the blame is solely yours no matter the circumstances.


41 posted on 08/30/2020 2:02:48 PM PDT by JayGalt (You can't teach a donkey how to tap dance. Nemo me impune lacessit!)
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To: grundle
The Founders originally had Life,Liberty and PROPERTY (as opposed to "happiness" (Whatever that vague term means as liberals destroyed the Constitution by the word.)

Destroying outside of war is one's declaration he/she does not adhere to civil society anymore. Those currently destroying have declared war and are a domestic enemy that need to be put down. We used to shoot them on sight and put them in prison for a long time to think about it.

42 posted on 08/30/2020 2:06:15 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: loucon

You are not responding to the question.
There is no demand.
If someone decides to commit arson the put their life at risk. If they can be stopped without being killed fine. If they are killed by accident or to prevent the arson that’s the breaks.


43 posted on 08/30/2020 2:07:00 PM PDT by JayGalt (You can't teach a donkey how to tap dance. Nemo me impune lacessit!)
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To: grundle

the property.

The terrorist lost their right to life.


44 posted on 08/30/2020 2:08:21 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: loucon

Sure as all get out it does. People can be trapped and burn. Bad way to go.


45 posted on 08/30/2020 2:10:57 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: JayGalt

Neither are you. The question boils down to what is more valuable, property or life.


46 posted on 08/30/2020 2:11:23 PM PDT by loucon (Quarintine by choice is freedom. Quarintine by mandate is ... well you know ... that thing ...)
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To: JayGalt

Well said. I was trying to formulate a response and you said it very well. If one is voluntarily and intentionally committing a violent crime he is inviting certain consequences.

If he wants to avoid the worst consequences then a Molotov cocktail should not be his drink of choice.


47 posted on 08/30/2020 2:12:26 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: JayGalt

“If they are killed by accident or to prevent the arson that’s the breaks.”

I don’t think I would shoot the arsonist. I’d shoot the molotov cocktail out of his hand. ;)


48 posted on 08/30/2020 2:12:43 PM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful!)
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To: loucon

The crime of arson does not demand ones life as punishment.
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It does if its my property!


49 posted on 08/30/2020 2:15:46 PM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat (Thank God, the great D.C. Swamp is drying up under Trump's glorious leadership!)
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To: grundle

i’m gonna say property

that property feeds a lot of people and helps a lot of customers

this should not even be a legitimized question but this is how far the country’s morals have fallen

all marxist commies need to be dead

all violent thugs that won’t stop being so need to be dead


50 posted on 08/30/2020 2:18:08 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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how does one know the arsonist isn’t trying to kill anyone in the building through burning up the place?

there are many motives for arson

i default to murder, therefore, yes you can kill him

i mean are you just going to sit back and allow someone to burn your house or business down? da phuck you are, if they wont stop from you yelling at them you have to use force

this is so idiotic, of course you neutralzie them


51 posted on 08/30/2020 2:21:37 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: fortheDeclaration

If you attack property you forfeit your right to life.
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Absolutely, and I wouldn’t hesitate a second to bring the life of an arsonist to an end.


52 posted on 08/30/2020 2:22:14 PM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat (Thank God, the great D.C. Swamp is drying up under Trump's glorious leadership!)
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To: grundle

The life of a business owner or anyone else. Loss of property can lead to loss of life, or in the least, a lower quality of life that may have been hard earned. And what if a business owner is in a building that’s burned down by an arsonist?

Picture this. A person who has barely enough to eat and would starve with any less food. Then a thief steals the food.

Theft can be a horrible crime. So can vandalism.


53 posted on 08/30/2020 2:23:04 PM PDT by familyop ( "Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy".)
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To: 21twelve

And if you missed, there’s the breaks.

I don’t say try & kill the arsonist. I say that at the point where someone is committing a crime they have put themselves at risk and have put others at risk.


54 posted on 08/30/2020 2:23:12 PM PDT by JayGalt (You can't teach a donkey how to tap dance. Nemo me impune lacessit!)
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To: loucon

No it does not.
That is the fallacy in your approach.
If there is a boat sinking you save the person not the diamond tiara. People are irreplaceable.
If someone is committing a crime they have stepped outside the law and they can and should be stopped from destroying property and risking the lives of others. They should be stopped using the least damaging method that will stop them be it taser or lethal force.


55 posted on 08/30/2020 2:28:15 PM PDT by JayGalt (You can't teach a donkey how to tap dance. Nemo me impune lacessit!)
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To: grundle

As of 5:0 PM EST:
The property of a business owner 98.39% (305 votes);
The life of someone who tries to burn down that business 1.61% (5 votes).
Total Votes: 310.
I don’t know how much Freepers had to do with this.


56 posted on 08/30/2020 2:33:11 PM PDT by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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As of 5:0 PM EST:
The property of a business owner 98.39% (305 votes);
The life of someone who tries to burn down that business 1.61% (5 votes).
Total Votes: 310.
I don’t know how much Freepers had to do with this.


57 posted on 08/30/2020 2:33:12 PM PDT by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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To: loucon

The question boils down to what is more valuable, property or life.
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Depends on the value of the property and the value of the person’s life who is committing the arson. If you’re suggesting the existence of an absolute, sorry, there isn’t one in play here. In my view anyone sets fire to property not his own needs to die.


58 posted on 08/30/2020 2:33:30 PM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat (Thank God, the great D.C. Swamp is drying up under Trump's glorious leadership!)
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To: loucon

Right you are.

It the old “Shall we have a peanut butter sandwich or sell the Chevy?” choice.

Shall we vote for Trump or have a cookie? I think I’ll do both, thank you!


59 posted on 08/30/2020 2:33:44 PM PDT by John Milner (Marching for Peace is like breathing for food.)
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To: grundle

How about an option C: Is it worth getting killed to burn down a building?


60 posted on 08/30/2020 2:34:20 PM PDT by Migraine ( Liberalism is great (until it happens to YOU).)
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