Posted on 08/01/2020 4:14:51 AM PDT by EyesOfTX
Media blackout on aisle Clinton! Media blackout on aisle Clinton! – A federal court unsealed court documents related to the cases against Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell late Thursday night. The contents of them are depressing and disgusting, and the story has of course been completely ignored by the corrupt, mainstream media outlets we have all come to know and detest.
The deposition of one of the underage girls trafficked and abused by the two ghouls shows luminaries like Prince Andrew, Alan Dershowitz and former president Bill Clinton visiting Epstein’s Caribbean island to engage with the victims of this pedophilia ring. Other documents show that, when one of the victims appealed to the FBI to release some of the evidence to her so she could pursue a civil suit against Epstein, the FBI simply ignored her.
Here is the truly depressing aspect about all of this: The FBI across two directors – Robert Mueller and James Comey – knew everything Epstein was involved in and gave him a pass, most likely because it was using him and Maxwell as sources for damaging information about the powerful men and women who were his clients. The revelations about Clinton, Prince Andrew and Dershowitz are nothing new: I have personally been writing about Clinton and his relationship with Epstein for at least 20 years.
VDO.AI A spokesman for Slick Willie denied last night that he has ever been to Epstein’s island, but this is just another lie from a compulsive liar. Clinton’s name famously appears on Epstein’s private jet (famously nicknamed the Lolita Express) flight logs at least 26 times over a span of more than a decade: Where are we supposed to think he was flying if not to Pedophile Island?
So, that’s old news and it is highly unlikely that any of those prominent clients will ever really face true justice for their crimes, especially with the full force of the American news media covering for them.
The worst part of all of this where our nation is concerned is the fact that the FBI knew all about this since at least the first of this century and did nothing. This disgraceful failure must somehow be punished.
To allow monsters like Epstein and Maxwell to continue to abuse and destroy the lives of young girls for decades so that they could be plumbed for dirt about their clients is not in any way appropriate or acceptable. Mueller, Comey and everyone else at the FBI who was in the decision-making chain here is every bit the monster that Clinton and the Prince and Dershowitz are, every bit the ghoul that Epstein and Maxwell personify.
America should not have monsters and ghouls running what is supposed to be its premier law enforcement agency. But of course, with the feckless Christopher Wray now in charge, we seem to have graduated from monster to worthless apparatchik, so we at least have that going for us.
What a damn circus.
That is all.
I agree, but I would add advising caution about believing all the denials as well. We all know, too well, how blatant a liar Bill Clinton can be ("I did not inhale." "I did not have sex with that woman, Ms. Lewinsky."), and others can lie with impunity and believability as well. Some are not such good liars (e.g. Prince Andrew - claiming that he never met the girl he was seen with in a photograph, and 'I have a condition and can't sweat').
Ultimately, I would like to see Epstein's and Maxwell's logs and financial records, and a forensic dissection of where all his money came from. There's a LOT to be learned from the money trail.
The FBI has done worse to America than what Clinton and his pals were doing to those poor girls.
YES! I’ve read that Clinton went there some one hundred plus times.
Tucker did counter because good old honest Dersh said the SECRET SERVICE told him.
Tucker said the Secret Service are not obligated to tell such things. And they usually don’t.
Dersh wants Billy C. on his side because I got a bridge to sell to anyone who believes Dersh.
Cause the guy is a liar.
“And, spare me the bs that 90% of the FBI personnel are great people. Without their silence, the FBI could not have degenerated to the point it is now.”
I keep saying the same. Obama, Comey, and the other household names didn’t spy on Republicans at all - how could they? Did they sneak into Republican homes and plant bugs, of course not? Did they know how to set up electronic monitoring of Republicans? No way. They had many people, likely dozens of lower-level people, doing it for them and keeping quiet, just following orders, I guess. And there had to be hundreds more knowing what’s going on.
And that’s just for the handful of Republicans associated with Trump - I suspect over half of the FBI was directly involved in spying on Americans way beyond the intent of the law - but what the hell, all they needed was an Obama/Clinton judge to sign off on it and all was fine.
I believed him also.
I don’t believe him and I believe the girl.
Saw that. He was sweating and protesting way too much. Even called the girl a young prostitute. He came across guilty as hell.
10 Dec 2017: Washington Times: Fusion GPS tried to tie Trump to Clinton’s pedophile pal Epstein as part of smear campaign
by Rowan Scarborough
Fusion GPS, the opposition research firm whose Democrat-financed Russia dossier fueled an FBI investigation into Donald Trump, pitched other stories about the Republican presidential candidate to Washington reporters, including an attempt to tie him to a convicted pedophile who was once buddies with former President Bill Clinton.
Journalist sources told The Washington Times that Fusion founder Glenn Simpson pushed the idea of a close relationship between Mr. Trump and Jeffrey Epstein, who pleaded guilty in 2008 to soliciting sex from an underage girl.
The Trump-Epstein link appears purely social, far short of Mr. Clinton’s 20-plus plane rides on Epstein’s “Lolita Express” private jet around the globe in the early 2000s.
Ken Silverstein, the reporter who ultimately wrote an Epstein-Trump report, confirmed to The Times that Fusion had sourced the story. Mr. Silverstein, founder and editor of WashingtonBabylon.com who wrote the story for Vice.com, defended Mr. Simpson as a solid source of information that must first be confirmed.
For years, Fusion GPS has been an influential hidden hand in Washington, with entree into the city’s most powerful news bureaus...
Fusion representatives met with New York Times reporters during the Democratic National Convention in July 2016.
Ironically, it appears The Times was the first to out Fusion on Jan. 11 as the source of the scandalous dossier that BuzzFeed posted the previous day...
“The New York Times, I know they work with Fusion,” said Mr. Silverstein, an investigative reporter who skewers the left and right. “Fusion works with a lot of big media organizations. That would give them influence in Washington.”
“I have worked with them,” he said. “I have gotten tips from them and stories from them. And every time I do, I go out and re-report … because I assume it is for a client and it is not 100 percent accurate. And I’ve never gotten anything from them that was 100 percent accurate. Not because they were slanting or lying or twisting. Every time I’ve gotten something from them, ‘This is a report. You’ve got to check it out.’ I have a great relationship with those guys.”...
“Fusion has filed a ton of [Freedom of Information Act] requests on Trump, especially in New York,” said the journalist source who asked not to be named and has had contact with the firm...
Mr. Silverstein, who wrote the Vice.Com story, was asked by The Washington Times if Fusion pushed the Epstein-Trump story.
“Since you asked, yes, they helped me with that,” Mr. Silverstein said. “But as you can see, I could not make a strong case for Trump being super close to Epstein, so they could hardly have been thrilled with that story. [In my humble opinion], that was the best story written about Trump’s ties to Epstein, but I failed to nail him. Trump’s ties were mild compared to Bill Clinton‘s.
“I said Fusion could not have been happy with the Epstein story,” he added. “What I mean is that I never proved a really sleazy connection, so frankly I was disappointed too, I thought there was more (and still wonder)...
In a Dec. 8 (2017) story in WashingtonBablyon.com, he wrote of the latest CNN goof: “Well, well, well. A central ‘fact’ of the whole Russia-Trump collusion story turns out to be fake news. The original ‘fact’ was reported by CNN, President Donald Trump’s favorite Fake News Network, so Trump is going to be popping corks on champagne bottles this weekend. Nice job, CNN!”...
But in another sense, the dossier — with all its unproven and far-fetched tales — has been a political success for Trump haters.
It influenced the FBI to launch a counterintelligence investigation into the Trump campaign that has grown into a full-blown special counsel inquiry with nearly 20 prosecutors and scores of FBI agents.
The dossier created thousands of social media devotees who are convinced its felony charges against the president and his aides are true.
Back in London, Mr. Steele can take pleasure in a special counsel investigation that could dog the Trump White House, the president, and current and former aides for months, maybe years.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/dec/10/glenn-simpsons-fusion-gps-ran-donald-trump-smear-c/
much more re dossier and FakeNewsMSM etc in the article.
I wish I knew too.
the best Silverstein could concoct:
29 Jan 2016: Vice: The Salacious Ammo Even Donald Trump Won’t Use in a Fight Against Hillary Clinton
Billionaire financier Jeffrey Epstein, who went to prison for soliciting sex from underage girls, once had ties to Bill Clinton. But Trump has good reason to avoid bringing them up, no matter how contentious a campaign battle may get.
by Ken Siverstein
If Hillary thinks she can unleash her husband, with his terrible record of women abuse, while playing the women’s card on me, she’s wrong!” Donald Trump tweeted at the end of December. He was referring, of course, to his potential Democratic rival for the presidency, Hillary Clinton, and her husband, Bill.
While other GOP candidates indicated they wouldn’t make Bill Clinton’s sexual improprieties an issue in the campaign — Hillary’s Democratic rival Bernie Sanders has said the same — Trump was making it plain he would.
“That’s what makes Donald Trump more dangerous than any person out there,” MSNBC host Joe Scarborough said on his show a week after Trump’s tweet. “He will bring up stuff that nobody else will bring up.”
And Scarborough had a specific figure from Bill Clinton’s past in mind.
“People in the know always talk about Jeffrey Epstein.”...
Flight logs show Bill Clinton traveled at least 10 times on Epstein’s private jet, dubbed the “Lolita Express” by tabloids, and he is widely reported to have visited Little St. James, Epstein’s private island in the US Virgin Islands...
When asked about a subpoena served to Trump in 2009, Garten said it “never happened.” The subpoena called for Trump to give a deposition in a case against Epstein; Garten’s denial baffled Brad Edwards, one of Virginia Roberts’ attorneys.
“There is no debate over what happened,” Edwards told VICE news. “I served Mr. Trump with a subpoena for deposition in 2009. He talked to me voluntarily, and consequently we withdrew the subpoena in light of his voluntarily providing information…. I can’t imagine there being any dispute of any of this.”...
Edwards also said that it is “obvious” Trump himself was not involved in any of Epstein’s illicit activity...
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/j59vm8/the-salacious-ammo-even-donald-trump-wont-use-in-a-fight-against-hillary-clinton-bill-clinton
I know why Ray is still there. Because he’s part of our corrupt government. He’s there for the same reason no one will be indicted for the coup against Trump. He’s there for the same reason Adam Schitt will not be prosecuted. He’s there for the same reason that the RATs will force mail in voting upon us to elect the next POTUS. This other stuff is bad, but not near as bad as how the RATs will cheat and steal the next election right before our eyes, and were going to let them do it.
“I was told Epstein ‘belonged to intelligence’ and to leave it alone,” he (Acosta) told his interviewers in the Trump transition. Supposedly.
When asked about that in that press conference, Acosta said:
“So there has been reporting to that effect and let me say, there’s been reporting to a lot of effects in this case, not just now but over the years and, again, I would hesitant to take this reporting as fact. This was a case that was brought by our office, it was brought based on the facts and I look at the reporting and others, I can’t address it directly because of our guidelines, but I can tell you that a lot of reporting is going down rabbit holes.”
Ok then. Has anyone ever asked the Trump administration if Acosta actually told them during Acosta’s vetting process that Epstein “belonged to intelligence”?
FReegards
I came across this 2019 article which I think is well worth reading. I think it important that Conservatives not fall into the behavior of Liberals which is to judge the guilt or innocence of a person based on opposing politics or philosophy without giving even the slightest nod to any evidence that contradicts preconceived notions. That is what they did to Justice Kavanaugh. Yeah Clinton is a known horntoad but is there anything in his history to show an inappropriate interest in girls?
You are right about a money trail would be very telling. Unfortunately it is probably a money labyrynth.
Why do I get this feeling there will be more “suicides” in the near future with this document release?
What always struck me about Dershowitz was how he became a big-time Trump supporter. While it would certainly be nice to believe that he really does think that government spying on political candidates is wrong, even when the spying is being done by Democrats, on the opposite party - it puts him in a very, very, small group of people in his liberal elite class. In fact, I can’t name ANY other major Democrat that is one bit bothered by what happened to Trump (for that matter, very few Republicans even seem bothered). Coincidence with Pedo Island stuff coming out at the same time - could be, I guess, but unlikely.
Only Clinton probably used Lube.
You may find this interesting.
“You believed him.
I do not.
Opinions may differ.
THANK YOU - I miss those days, wish we had more of that in politics and on this site.”
You guys are apparently not aware of a longstanding FR tradition. If you have different opinions you are required to immediately call the other person names and insult their intelligence. “Idiot” and “fool” are the most common things to call other people, but you can be creative. Civil and logical arguments are strongly discouraged. Thanks for your cooperation.
Question is whose?
For Epstein & Co to have operated as long as they did, preying on the people they did, Epstein had to have had not just protection from/by intel and law enforcement, but from a slew of other regulatory and investigatory agencies that could have and should have taken an interest.
To my mind that says involvement by and for state actors. More than one.
“And, spare me the bs that 90% of the FBI personnel are great people. Without their silence, the FBI could not have degenerated to the point it is now.”
And another response - the Muslim analogy that I’ve used in the past when they try to recruit terrorists at a mosque, versus Christians trying the same thing:
MUSLIM #1: I’m going to blow up a cafe and kill dozens of Infidels, care to join me?
MUSLIM #2: No thanks man, I’m not into that.
CHRISTIAN #1: I’m going to blow up an IRS building and kill dozens of jack booted thugs, care to join me?
CHRISTIAN #2: No thanks man, I’m not into that.
CHRISTIAN #2: Hello, FBI? There’s this guy in my church...
Bottom line is that there are bad people on all sides, it is what the OTHER PEOPLE, who know what’s going on, do about it.
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