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To: grundle
I am so tired of people referring to Democrats as Democratic.

Now back to the article. It doesn't surprise me that Democrats are worse leaders than Republicans. But I'm glad someone took the time to examine the issue.

2 posted on 05/12/2020 4:44:13 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Robert DeLong

All over local news that Red states will die of Covid first once things open up again.

Of course, that is bs.


8 posted on 05/12/2020 5:08:42 PM PDT by redgolum (If this culture today is civilization, I will be the barbarian)
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To: Robert DeLong

“I am so tired of people referring to Democrats as Democratic.”

You’re not alone.


12 posted on 05/12/2020 5:24:35 PM PDT by Mr. N. Wolfe
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To: Robert DeLong; Bonemaker; Pollard; jarwulf; Revel; Skepolitic; redgolum; tired&retired; ...
Apologies for the length.

I wanted to address this article before posting my (overdue) update on the size- and time-adjusted fatalities by country and state.

First, the article's analysis, while legit, is then mis-interpreted later on, i.e., "The dramatically different death rates between states with Republican and Democratic governors." All the writer did was pool the deaths per capital for Blue and Red (as defined by the Gov). Individual states may behave differently, and if one or two states overwhelm the pooled data then it's not a proper analysis.

A better specification would be to examine the size-adjusted fatalities as a function of the Gov being Blue or Red. You could also look at the makeup of the Upper House of the Legislative Branch of the States, and whether or not the State went for Trump in 2016. Finally, comparing the fatalities on any given day fails to take into account the fact that because each State flared up at different times, i.e., Washington State breached the national equivalent of 1,000 cumulative fatalities on March 9 vs March 29 for Pennsylvania. A better approach would be to compare the size- and time-adjusted fatalities as a function of Blue or Red factors.

So, I went and estimated six regressions, using the log of the adjusted fatality value as a function of dummy variables (1=Blue, 0= not) for the Gov, Trump in 2016, and Upper House (there isn't much difference between Upper and Lower blue/red status at the State level). Below I provide the overall p-value for the dummy variable:

Dependent Variable Gov=1 if Dem, 0 Otherwise Trump=1 if Trump won, 0 Otherwise 1 if Upper Assembly = Dem, 0 Otherwise
log(size adj fatalities 5/11/2020) 0.0252 0.0018 0.0042
Log(time and size adj fatalities Day 38) 0.0682 0.0746 0.0879

So, what does this mean? Basically, it's a mixed bag (as some of the posters were saying). If you don't adjust for the timing of when each State heats up, then there is a relatively strong difference in fatalities (adjusted for population differences) along political lines - basically fatalities are higher in States that went for Hillary, have Dem govs, and have Democrat-controlled Houses. However, if you DO adjust for timing differences and use the size-adjusted fatality 38 Days after each state breaches the 1,000 size-adjusted fatality level, then your regression is 'insignificant' at the 5% p-value but not at the 10% p-value. In my experience, once p-value is higher than 5% regressions don't differentiate very much.

I think, at individual state levels, the makeup of governor is pretty important. Wolf in PA is a Dem and Baker in MA is a Republican but both States are disasters, while Hawaii (blue) and Wyoming (Red) are equally doing well. This is not a cut and dry issue.

And now, for the latest installment of the updated tracking of size- and time-adjusted COVID-19 deaths at the state and national level. For those new to the data, I standardize each municipality's cumulative COVID-19 fatality count per GitHub by its population, then multiply the resulting quotient by the US' population of 329MM to put everyone on a common/US scale. I then index each municipality's time-series to Day 1, where their size-adjusted fatality count is right before it breaches 1,000 people. This corrects for what I call the "Golf Problem" where broadcasts of the Masters etc have to show not only each golfer's score, but which hole they're at. I also list the Day 1 date and the population for reference. I've posted the history back to Day 1 on my About page.

Note for the US as nation, that Day 1 is March 25, which means Day 48 is May 11 for that row of data. You can do the math for the other municipalities to find out what Day XX means for them in calendar times; as a general rule, the last actual data point is the freshest date, but on a Golf timeline it gives each municipality's score as of the "48th hole."

The sort order is Day 48 for the international table, with Canada and Israel added based their Day 41 rankings. For the states' data, I sort by Day 44 which generally keeps the relative ranking steady for later days, most notably for the states with higher than national fatality totals.

The international ranking of the US hasn't changed in a long time. Sweden and the Netherlands' "hands off" approach hasn't yielded fewer fatalities than the US, and Sweden's actually gotten worse over the past few days - it's now lost 20k+ more people on an adjusted basis; she deserves her own scrutiny because SE isn't truly a hands-off/'flubro' nirvana. But that doesn't mean we should ignore what they're doing - maybe there is something to this herd immunity thing.

Stateside, for Day 48 the ranking of municipalities adjusted fatalities higher than the US as a whole remains unchanged over the past few weeks: New York (Blue), New Jersey (Blue), Connecticut (Blue), Massachusetts (Blue), Michigan (Red), Louisiana (Red) and District of Columbia (Blue), respectively. Rhode Island, Pennsylvania, Illinois and Delaware are also hotter than the national average on the basis of Day 44.

Pray for everyone impacted: the dead, the infected, and the unemployed. And let's open up the country.

Country Date of Day 1=day priot to hitting 1,000+ population-adjusted deaths Population Day 41 Day 42 Day 43 Day 44 Day 45 Day 46 Day 47 Day 48 Day 49 Day 50 Day 51
San Marino 3/3/20 33,574 343,554 343,554 353,370 353,370 373,001 382,817 382,817 382,817 382,817 392,633 392,633
Belgium 3/19/20 11,524,454 209,639 214,501 217,160 220,277 222,050 224,309 226,597 229,228 238,464 240,638 243,669
Andorra 3/21/20 77,543 178,499 182,749 186,999 191,249 191,249 195,499 195,499 199,749 199,749 203,999 203,999
Spain 3/13/20 47,100,396 151,951 155,030 157,598 160,243 162,258 164,574 166,680 169,850 171,725 171,725 175,622
United Kingdom 3/20/20 66,435,550 129,798 133,151 136,827 139,912 141,475 142,908 146,341 149,560 152,234 155,344 157,061
Italy 3/5/20 60,243,406 115,245 118,407 121,279 124,425 127,061 129,430 131,914 134,835 137,225 139,764 142,061
France 3/18/20 67,076,000 114,610 116,413 118,511 119,931 121,002 121,665 122,338 123,832 125,468 126,819 127,694
Sweden 3/23/20 10,333,456 85,120 85,439 88,309 91,020 93,795 96,952 101,258 102,693 102,852 103,841 -
Ireland 3/25/20 4,921,500 88,324 89,663 92,074 93,949 95,690 96,828 97,631 98,234 - - -
Netherlands 3/17/20 17,451,031 84,811 85,623 86,529 89,268 90,854 92,705 94,480 95,783 96,274 97,917 98,597
United States 3/25/20 329,556,365 68,922 71,064 73,431 75,662 77,180 78,795 79,526 80,682 - - -
Switzerland 3/16/20 8,586,550 61,370 61,793 63,904 65,209 65,861 66,667 67,319 67,626 67,626 68,471 68,893
Canada 4/1/20 37,979,093 44,384 - - - - - - - - - -
Luxembourg 3/17/20 613,894 47,241 47,241 47,778 47,778 48,315 49,388 49,388 51,536 51,536 51,536 52,609
Macedonia 3/24/20 679,600 40,734 41,219 41,704 42,674 43,158 43,643 44,128 44,128 44,128 - -
Portugal 3/23/20 10,276,617 32,806 33,448 34,089 34,442 34,923 35,436 35,724 36,109 36,398 36,686 -
Germany 3/25/20 83,149,300 27,716 27,716 28,834 29,298 29,765 29,920 29,999 30,364 - - -
Denmark 3/22/20 5,822,763 26,035 26,884 27,393 27,903 28,469 28,639 29,091 29,544 29,771 29,940 30,167
Austria 3/23/20 8,902,600 22,063 22,137 22,211 22,433 22,507 22,544 22,729 22,766 22,877 22,951 -
Iran 3/9/20 83,331,064 19,897 20,241 20,600 20,948 21,320 21,676 22,044 22,345 22,582 22,961 23,242
Israel 4/1/20 9,180,000 9,262 - - - - - - - - - -
Iceland 3/23/20 364,260 9,047 9,047 9,047 9,047 9,047 9,047 9,047 9,047 9,047 9,047 -

Municipality Date of Day 1 = day prior to breaching size-adj 1,000 COVID19 fatalities Population Day 41 Day 42 Day 43 Day 44 Day 45 Day 46 Day 47 Day 48 Day 49 Day 50 Day 51
New York 3/19/20 19,795,791 379,187 387,677 393,154 396,900 400,130 409,136 412,666 416,661 432,110 436,272 438,803
New Jersey 3/23/20 8,958,013 284,820 289,566 291,001 303,289 314,509 323,780 329,335 335,369 340,482 343,609 -
Connecticut 3/23/20 3,590,886 223,566 223,566 234,579 241,646 249,447 256,697 263,764 269,087 272,299 276,062 -
Massachusetts 3/25/20 6,794,422 198,381 204,299 214,387 220,790 228,066 234,759 241,501 247,758 - - -
Michigan 3/24/20 9,922,576 134,479 137,335 138,796 141,154 144,243 145,904 150,321 151,151 152,247 - -
Louisiana 3/20/20 4,670,724 127,145 131,379 135,965 137,588 138,928 140,481 144,079 147,748 150,641 151,982 154,804
District of Columbia 3/24/20 672,228 123,051 126,483 129,425 135,798 139,720 149,034 152,466 158,349 160,800 - -
Rhode Island 3/29/20 1,056,298 124,485 130,413 131,661 134,156 - - - - - - -
Pennsylvania 3/28/20 12,802,503 92,644 95,862 97,638 98,307 98,642 - - - - - -
Illinois 3/27/20 12,859,995 76,290 80,442 83,594 86,156 87,796 88,642 - - - - -
Delaware 3/27/20 945,934 67,240 70,375 74,208 76,995 78,040 78,388 - - - - -
United States 3/25/20 329,556,365 68,922 71,064 73,431 75,662 77,180 78,795 79,526 80,682 - - -
Indiana 3/26/20 6,619,680 66,014 68,553 70,395 72,038 74,179 75,075 76,668 - - - -
Colorado 3/24/20 5,456,574 50,733 51,276 54,417 55,504 56,893 57,860 58,282 58,524 59,611 - -
Mississippi 3/27/20 2,992,333 41,190 43,613 45,045 46,366 47,357 47,908 - - - - -
Georgia 3/23/20 10,214,860 37,457 37,683 39,618 41,199 42,232 43,006 44,458 44,522 44,619 46,587 -
Ohio 3/29/20 11,614,373 37,058 37,767 38,051 38,505 - - - - - - -
Virginia 3/29/20 8,382,993 31,922 32,511 32,983 33,416 - - - - - - -
Nevada 3/24/20 2,890,845 29,868 30,324 31,464 32,604 33,402 34,314 34,884 34,884 35,568 - -
Washington 3/8/20 7,170,351 28,036 28,909 29,277 30,380 31,391 31,989 32,954 33,597 34,149 34,792 35,436
Florida 3/29/20 20,271,272 27,117 27,865 27,963 28,206 - - - - - - -
Vermont 3/18/20 626,042 24,741 24,741 24,741 25,794 26,321 26,847 27,900 27,900 27,900 27,900 28,426
Wisconsin 3/29/20 5,771,337 21,927 22,727 22,841 23,355 - - - - - - -
California 3/27/20 39,144,818 20,862 21,561 22,310 23,000 23,312 23,396 - - - - -
Oklahoma 3/27/20 3,911,338 21,317 21,907 22,412 22,749 22,918 23,086 - - - - -
South Carolina 3/27/20 4,896,146 20,529 21,270 21,539 22,212 22,279 23,289 - - - - -
Kansas 3/29/20 2,911,641 18,902 19,468 19,468 20,373 - - - - - - -
North Dakota 3/29/20 756,927 14,368 15,239 15,239 15,674 - - - - - - -
Idaho 3/28/20 1,654,930 13,342 13,342 13,342 13,342 13,940 - - - - - -
Oregon 3/27/20 4,028,977 9,407 9,897 10,143 10,388 10,388 10,634 - - - - -
Montana 3/29/20 1,032,949 5,105 5,105 5,105 5,105 - - - - - - -
Maryland 3/31/20 6,006,401 90,202 92,342 - - - - - - - - -
Minnesota 3/31/20 5,489,594 34,699 35,479 - - - - - - - - -
New Hampshire 4/1/20 1,330,608 32,941 - - - - - - - - - -
New Mexico 4/1/20 2,085,109 32,875 - - - - - - - - - -
Iowa 4/1/20 3,123,899 28,589 - - - - - - - - - -
Missouri 4/1/20 6,083,672 27,844 - - - - - - - - - -
Alabama 3/31/20 4,858,979 26,655 27,333 - - - - - - - - -
Arizona 3/30/20 6,828,065 25,677 25,870 26,160 - - - - - - - -
Kentucky 3/30/20 4,425,092 23,236 23,236 23,162 - - - - - - - -
Nebraska 4/1/20 1,896,190 17,032 - - - - - - - - - -
Maine 3/30/20 1,329,328 15,866 15,866 16,114 - - - - - - - -
Tennessee 3/31/20 6,600,299 12,083 12,533 - - - - - - - - -
Puerto Rico 4/1/20 3,680,058 10,119 - - - - - - - - - -
Arkansas 3/31/20 2,978,204 10,070 10,402 - - - - - - - - -

17 posted on 05/12/2020 8:54:15 PM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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