Posted on 04/09/2020 4:20:03 AM PDT by CheshireTheCat
Can any government statistics on COVID-19 deaths be trusted?
It is an open question now that we are learning that the highly respected, world-class Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has been lying to us.
This revelation comes a few days after I wrote here at American Thinker that New York City was lying about COVID-19 deaths. The normal rules about reporting deaths have been violated by that city in the rush to inflate the body count, presumably to steer more taxpayer money to the Big Apple.
That the CDC isnt telling the truth to Americans is no conspiracy theory: its right out there in the open for everyone to see. The CDC openly admits that it is fudging the COVID-19 death figures.
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
Ya.
Have known/suspected this for a cpl months now.
Taking extra care with hubby too, he’s got HBP.
From the onset of the model it was OVER STATED on purpose I believe to initiate the panic, hysteria via the media. The model was always intended to be inflated and they always have intended to have an excuse of why it was off this week, this month as they currently are doing. 1-2 MILLION, 100-200K now down to 60K?
So what happens next time, maybe in the fall when election starts, will this start back up and screams for absentee ballot voting become reality which is what the DEMS.LIBERALS WANTED with the first wave of COV19.
The directives with COV19 and coding deaths is way different then ever before with any other virus.
I said back in the fall and then again with the impeachment the DEMS ALWAYS have a plan A, B, C, D, E
The relief act passed,the act passing out 100 billion dollars to hospitals and”other entities”, allocates the dollars by the number of Covid-19 deaths,so labeling deaths attributed to the virus pays big bucks
I don't know about that. Sweden's herd mentality option seems much better. Protect the most vulnerable and slow down the spread of the virus while building controlled group immunity. And without destroying the their economy.
Someone who has been managing diabetes for years and suddenly dies after contracting Covid-19 is dying because of Covid-19.
Your not telling the whole truth. A lot of deaths are being reported as Covid-19 for patients that haven't been tested for the virus. They go to hospital and die -- it's Covid-19. We really do not know the true death rate because of this. Also, besides likely a millions or people already have caught the virus and did not know it.
Yes, this thing is no joke for the elderly. But for 50 and under I doubt much worse than a bad flu which we tolerated for years and years. I like Sweden's approach once we get the onset treatment doses worked out for stuff that is working and test for antibodies.
Let's get America working instead of living in constant fear, which these sell isolation orders drag out.
Worldometer counts 131000+ deaths globally from 2019-2020 seasonal flu and 88000 deaths globally from COVID-19 AND from news reports the COVID death count has been padded?
Which one was the pandemic? Was there a pandemic. Remember the WHO declared the pandemic. The same WHO that said there was nothing to worry about from Wuhan?
Seems to me there are a whole lot of Chinese pandemic products being offered for sale lately (surgical masks, face shields, hand sanitizers, etc) within just a few short weeks of the pandemic being declared.
Interesting!
Follow the money:
Peter Korman @pjkorman
https://twitter.com/pjkorman/status/1248221597661609984?s=20
Here is information that there is a large financial incentive for hospitals to use Covid-19 as the cause of death:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EVKS7L8UwAE_WpB?format=jpg&name=900x900
Peter Korman @pjkorman
Here are the specific guidelines regarding Covid-19 and reporting mortality issued by the CDC:
https://cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss
Relevant to the article and perspective:
Based upon Table 31a : Death Summary Information by Race/Ethnicity New York State - 2015 then 153,623 died that year which translates into 420,88,5 deaths per day.
As for New York city, with a figure of one death every 9.1 minutes (2015) per Population Facts then that translates into,
9.1 minute x 60.00 minutes = 546.00 hour x 24.00 =13,104.00 a day x 365.00 = 4,782,960.00 a year for New York city.
Relevant to this and for perspective, about 7,200 Americans die every day in the US from a wide range of causes, both natural and unnatural. (https://www.weisspaarz.com/leading-causes-death-by-state/)
About 90 people die each day in the US from crashes (https://www.cdc.gov/vitalsigns/motor-vehicle-safety/index.html) According to CDC statistics, there were 40,231 deaths caused by motor vehicle accidents in 2017. (Death index: Top 59 ways Americans die)
CDC estimates that influenza has resulted in between 9 million 45 million illnesses, between 140,000 810,000 hospitalizations and between 12,000 61,000 deaths annually since 2010. (https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html)
The model was based on the biology of the virus. This virus has all of the characteristics that those of us in the pandemic response community (as I was, retired now) recognize as being extremely worrisome. This is a cold virus, with similar transmissibility as other cold viruses. No one has preexisting immunity, hence everyone is susceptible to catching it. And since the lethality of a virus is inversely related to transmissibility, it occupies a "sweet spot" where the lethality is low enough for it to spread readily, but high enough that it can cause millions of deaths if nothing is done to stop it.
I know that the left is trying to capitalize on the pandemic to effect a huge power grab. However, they are not creating a false panic. The danger is real. For historical precedent, look at the H1N1 pandemic of 1917-1919, which caused 50 million deaths and followed a pattern that Covid-19 will likely follow. If you want to see what happens when the left tries to create a baseless fear, look at how different the response is to "global warming" vs. the Covid-19 pandemic. People are smart enough to figure out real threats vs. politically motivated hype.
Yes, of course, the projections of disease are being adjusted downwards. That is because infection control measures work. The area of fighting infectious disease has been a topic of medical research for centuries; we know a couple of things about it.
If you have asthma that has been controlled for several years, and you get Covid-19 and die, is it really the asthma that killed you? Don't fall for the "dying with Covid-19" trap. It is a semantic trick being used to try to convince people that Covid-19 is benign, so that they will not take proper precautions against it. It's a perfect narrative for the extinct humanity adherents who embrace anything that causes people to die.
The CDC Confesses to Lying About COVID-19 Death Numbers
Interesting that the word 'confess' is never again used in the article.
Certified click bait.
Rush is discussing it being here last fall, and herd immunity possibly already established in CA, considering their unusually low numbers and Chinese shipping contacts.
The CDC Confesses to Lying About COVID-19 Death Numbers
The government lies.
The media lies.
Is there a trace of truth anywhere today?
After being lied to to for most of my 84 years I don not believe anything I hear.
I love Rush, but he has been so far off the mark on this that I find him unlistenable.
There is no herd immunity. I saw a piece yesterday that claimed that they were looking into herd immunity in CA, with the assumption that the virus has been circulating freely since December. That is completely bogus; the virus only emerged on November 17, in China. A month later, on Dec. 15, there were 27 cases and doctors identified a new pathogen. There simply has not been enough time since it emerged for it to have infected 80% of the CA population, especially not by the time Chinese doctors noticed a new disease. The 80% figure is about the percentage of population that needs to be immune in order to establish herd immunity.
“Unusually low numbers” means 1) that there have not been many exposures since the first case in CA was identified and isolated on Jan 25, and 2) that people began taking precautions before the government declared an emergency. The numbers are not actually that low, with 19,063 cases in CA at this time.
An emerging virus does not and cannot infect a large population all at once. For this virus, each infected person infects, on average, 2.5 others. According to my calculations, this means that each person infects 2.5 others every 9 days. There is simply no evidence to support an assumption that Covid-19 is widely circulating. Or any kind of assumption that herd immunity has already been established.
Please repost this tomorrow.
LOL!
She writes, And another thing: this artificial concept of “dying with Covid-19” needs to be ditched, which is EXACTLY the point the article tries to make.
Not at all. The argument is made in the article. Read it again.
Not at all.
'Confess' is only in the title. Note the 1/1 in the search block. And, no, the case is not made in the article. Click bait writers don't know the difference between claim, admit, and confess.
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