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THE NUMBERS JUST DON'T ADD UP: Nearly 500,000 Went to Hospital in 2018-19 Flu Season But Today There Are Not Enough Hospital Beds for Coronavirus Patients?
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Posted on 03/27/2020 9:43:32 AM PDT by MNDude

THE NUMBERS JUST DON'T ADD UP: Nearly 500,000 Went to Hospital in 2018-19 Flu Season But Today There Are Not Enough Hospital Beds for Coronavirus Patients?

The MSM and Democrats claim there are not enough hospital beds for the current 85,000 people identified with the coronavirus, many of whom will never even enter a hospital due to their relatively minor condition. Also, in 2018-19 there were plenty of beds for the nearly 500,000 patients that spent time in hospitals, due to the flu.

Via the CDC – there were 490,000 hospitalizations during the 2018-2019 flu season.

Really, What is going on? The data just don’t add up.

And yet the media want you to believe the US will run out of hospital beds during the coronavirus.

The data to date show that most individuals with the coronavirus suffer from very mild conditions. The panic-driven Washington Post even reported that 82% of these individuals with the coronavirus suffer from mild conditions.

Assuming the remaining require hospitalization (which is unlikely but conservative), then only 15,300 people currently require hospitalizations across the US. Of course this too is conservative because many of these cases in the US are already recovered and the individuals no longer suffer from the virus from China.

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1 posted on 03/27/2020 9:43:32 AM PDT by MNDude
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To: MNDude

The MSM and Democrats claim , here’s the problem


2 posted on 03/27/2020 9:46:10 AM PDT by butlerweave
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I don’t think that China and Italy have banned Vaping...VARDS-Vaping Acute Respiratory Disease Syndrome. Symptoms like the virus. It can lead to DEATH.

https://journals.lww.com/ccejournal/Fulltext/2020/02000/Vaping_Associated_Respiratory_Distress_Syndrome_.4.aspx


3 posted on 03/27/2020 9:47:07 AM PDT by PGalt
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Drama queens gotta drama.


4 posted on 03/27/2020 9:47:10 AM PDT by glorgau
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The average stay for the flu was probably a lot less than the 14 days for COVID.

THe number of hospitalizations is not the number. What you need is the number of hospital-days. ALso the number of ICU-days.

My guess is the flu had lower hospital-days and ICU-days.

This is why treatment is important; even if we didn’t save a life, if we can make recovery happen in 5 days, instead of 15 days, it triples the available hospital beds.


5 posted on 03/27/2020 9:47:39 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: MNDude

Can you say “media hoax?” I knew you could. Wonder how much it cost Soros and Gates.


6 posted on 03/27/2020 9:49:56 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: MNDude

A lot of the claims about coronavirus made or promoted in the MSM have the same ring (and smell) as claims about global warming. There’s a lot of unsubstantiated projection going on, a lot of weasel-words like “potential” and “could” and “may” sprinkled in there with the direst of possible outcomes.


7 posted on 03/27/2020 9:51:49 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps ( Be ready!)
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I think the problem is not derived from “national” figures, but from the concentrations of the virus in some places, increasing the hospital bed demands there while elsewhere in the nation there is no shortage. Cov-19 seems to be less spread out than the seasonal flu.


8 posted on 03/27/2020 9:53:20 AM PDT by Wuli
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Also, it is not “unlikely”, it is in fact pretty much the definition of the “serious cases” that they are in hospital.

Although there is anecdotal reports that some hospitals are sending people home with oxygen, if they don’t need an active ventilator, and then sending people to check on them. I don’t know if I believe that, because I still think the issue in hospitals is number of ICU beds, not total beds, so I would think that a person on oxygen should have a bed in the hospital.

Virginia is currently at 83 hospitalizations. We have almost 2000 ICU beds, but staff for only about 1750. we have 18,500 “licensed” beds — which is part of the problem, many states require a license to open a hospital bed, and have heavily restricted them. Hospitals who could easily have added a floor with generic bed space didn’t do so because they could not get licenses for them.

But clearly at this point, we are nowhere near hitting our capacity, and we’ve already built a COVID facility in the mary washington hospital parking garage in Fredericksburg, so the available beds have increased, and every hospital is adding beds where they can, including converting some operating rooms since we banned elective surgeries.

You know, each abortion clinic has at least one room that would work as an ICU, complete with ventilators and other equipment, if they would just ban elective abortions.


9 posted on 03/27/2020 9:53:41 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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Maybe because the flu is still running around making people sick and when you add another disease that will require hospitalization, the number of beds don’t increase. Just subtraction.

It ain’t rocket science nor require a conspiracy theory.


10 posted on 03/27/2020 9:58:48 AM PDT by RedMonqey
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I regularly drive by two big hospitals in Hamilton County Ohio. Both are ghost towns.

Only 48 cases total in a county of 813,936. 1/4 require hospitalization.

Yet Governor deWhine said yesterday to expect 6,000-8,000 cases a day in Ohio.

Ain’t gonna happen.

(Two weeks ago they said their best guess was that there were 100,000 cases already in Ohio, that it was going to grow at 35% per day, and the fatality rate was at least 1.4%.)


11 posted on 03/27/2020 10:00:10 AM PDT by Bartholomew Roberts
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Not that down with abortions but abortions don’t require anesthesia, or an anesthesiologist.


12 posted on 03/27/2020 10:00:41 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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Problem is this is gateway spudnik, we’re talking.

Influenza doesn’t pose the same challenges as the ChiCom Virus hospitalizations.


13 posted on 03/27/2020 10:02:18 AM PDT by romanesq (8Chan & its child porn are kaput & all the crap with it. Trump-Pence 2020! Magacoalition.com)
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no logic allowed.

people are going to the hospital for things besides COVID-19.
The data to get is how many are there for things other than coronavirus (see (no don't see) Kathy Griffith)

Via the CDC – there were 490,000 hospitalizations during the 2018-2019 flu season

regardless of length of stay, (and not all people stay the same # of days)it's still a rolling period.

after all that, your initial question still stands...why should there be a bed shortage for\because of coronavirus?
14 posted on 03/27/2020 10:04:38 AM PDT by stylin19a (((2016 - Best.Election.Of.All.Times.Ever.In.The.History.Of.Ever)))
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How dare you not accept our word this is a crisis and take it seriously! Denier! /s


15 posted on 03/27/2020 10:05:18 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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This is primarily a shortage crisis in 3-4 urban hot spots, NYC,Washington state around Seattle, LA and now maybe New Orleans.The rest of the country right now is not complaining about ventilator shortages.Even though the NYC area has more than 50% of the cases no way will they need 40,000 ventilators Cuomo keeps whining about, especially now when their cases are levelling off.


16 posted on 03/27/2020 10:07:39 AM PDT by chuckee
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In addition, the influenza hospitalizations stretched out over the entire flu season; whereas the Chinese Wuhan Flu may require the same number of hospitalizations as the regular flu, but within a more compact time frame.

Then again, I read in World Nut Daily, yesterday, that the media and many politicians are relying upon information and estimates provided by a “think-tank” run by a bunch of libtards, who according to the article, are not very good at basic math/statistics.


17 posted on 03/27/2020 10:11:51 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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The numbers have never added up.


18 posted on 03/27/2020 10:13:43 AM PDT by Rennes Templar (Heaven has a wall and gates. Hell has open borders.)
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One hospital in my city discharged HALF of all patients to “make room” ...

Doctor’s currently twiddling their thumbs with not much to do ...


19 posted on 03/27/2020 10:21:40 AM PDT by nevermorelenore ( If My people will pray ....)
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To: MNDude; wastoute; exDemMom

I think there is a lot of confusion about the numbers of “hospital beds”, lumping all beds together. Maybe it is better to think about care units/departments which have specialized staff and equipment and fixed hospital utility hook ups...beds are portable, some equipment is, others are not.

Intensive Cardiac unit setups and staff are different from, say maternal units. Are newborn beds counted in hosiptal totals?

Dunno...but they’re clearly not adult size...

So the ping is to doctors to explain the “accounting of beds” as though we were five year olds.

Having had stays in both cancer and cardiac ICUs as well as post-op recovery beds, I don’t think that all beds are available for COV-19 care.


20 posted on 03/27/2020 10:22:08 AM PDT by Covenantor (We are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern. " Chesterton)
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