Posted on 02/25/2020 6:27:20 AM PST by bryan999
Bernie Sanders’ nomination could drag down vulnerable House Democrats trying to hold onto their competitive districts, according to a new poll conducted for Mike Bloomberg's campaign that is circulating among members — providing fresh data for moderates warning about a wipeout if Sanders emerges to lead their ticket against President Donald Trump.
The poll of voters in more than 40 battleground House districts currently held by Democrats — conducted by Global Strategy Group for the Bloomberg campaign and obtained by POLITICO from two sources — found that Sanders is less popular than Trump and loses significant support when hit for holding socialist positions. Sanders is a self-described Democratic socialist, a distinction that his opponents are starting to draw more frequently in the days following the Vermont senator’s dominance in Nevada. His agenda of "Medicare for All," the "Green New Deal" and guaranteed tuition and debt-free public colleges has rankled more establishment members of the party.
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The people saying Bernie can never beat Trump are the same ones who were saying Trump can never beat Hillary 4 yrs ago.
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I agree that no matter what, complacency cannot be an option on our side. HOWEVER, this is not the same thing. People who said Trump can’t win based it primarily on his personality and political inexperience. Saying Bernie can’t win is based on the fact that he’s a commie and the resulting policies.
The Bloom is off the Commie red rose.
I agree congressional Republicans running for reelection will benefit the most with Sanders at the top of the Dem ticket. They only need one campaign ad played endlessly with their Dem opponent’s face morphing into the face of Bernie Sanders. The first time in history Republicans would have a chance at supermajorities in Congress. Supermajority won’t last but it would be a fun 2 years of getting things done
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DNC will be sending RBG’s body to the Disney studios for taxidermy and robotic animation implants.
There are two kinds of coat-tails:
—The commonly publicized positive coat-tails, where voters switch parties to the Presidential candidate and vote the Presidential candidate’s party line
—The mostly ignored negative coat-tails, where voters refuse to show up to the polls because they dislike the Presidential candidate, so they are not available to vote the Presidential candidate’s party line
It is the _negative_ coat tails that would sink the Democratic down-ticket candidates.
Works for me.
Don’t you think the DNC isn’t going to allow it though ? Seems like they know full well that a Bernie nomination essentially hands the election to Trump and destroys the Democrat Party.
So it seems to me that their strategy SHOULD be to eliminate Bernie ASAP and get anyone of those other idiots in..... literally for their own survival. Even if Bloomberg or whomever loses, they can at least keep their donors and regroup for 2024. So I just don’t see how it’s beneficial for the Party to allow Bernie to get the nom.
Just my three cents!
Who other than Bernie Bros would even bother to vote.
In the 30 congressional districts that Trump won that are currently held by the Democrats? You bet.
It’s basic math. Right now, being conservative, Democrats and Republicans are essentially even in number. Voter enthusiasm for Trump within Republican voters, and a sizeable chunk of independents, are greater than we have ever seen (greater even than Democrat support for Obama). Turnout among Republicans will be extremely high, as it will for Trump-supporting independents.
What this means is that his Democratic opponent has two, very difficult, hurdles to overcome. One is to somehow lower pro-Trump turnout, especially in the new swing states in the upper midwest. But that hurdle is actually the easier one. The bigger problem is that a Democrat would have to, somehow, get Democratic turnout to rival Trump’s Republican turnout.
Sanders, quite simply, cannot do that. 20% of the party support him loudly and enthusiastically (and will have near 100% turnout - or as near as possible). Another 30-40% are at best lukewarm. He will win their vote, but their turnout cannot be expected to be anything higher than modest. And the remainder are adamantly opposed to Sanders. They will still vote for Sanders 9:1 (actually, it will be lower), but turnout there will be atrocious.
People don’t generally vote against their own self-interest. Obama was subtle enough, and people wanted to believe, so that people were convinced that a vote for Obama wouldn’t hurt them personally. This is not true for Sanders. He lacks any subtlety, and his entire platform is built around punitive taxation, wealth confiscation, and business strangulation.
Turnout for Sanders will be atrocious. For Trump it will be record breaking. Translation: landslide, with significant downticket implications.
Vote Bernie in the Primary and make every candidate embrace the communism.
truth if repeated on CNN
Of course we have no reason to doubt an “internal Bloomberg” poll less then two weeks from Super Tuesday. Bloomberg has one job now: Take out Bernie.
Sure, man. Bloomberg poll. Right.
Even now, at the height of his popularity, Bernie Sanders is receiving only 29 percent support from Democrats, according to the RCP average.
Which means that more than 70 percent of Democrats are rejecting him.
this is why we want Bernie!!! He would make taking the House back for the GOP much, much easier...
I suspect this is true, and I pray that it is. That said, I do not trust anything from Bloomie.
The sad part is that Mike thinks everyone is too stupid to realize.
There’s a reason I’m voting for Bernie in North Carolina’s open primary.......
Trump had a message that appealed to a lot of people in the center. That’s how he won most of the rust belt.
Sanders has a message that only appeals to the far left. Seriously, only 25 to 30 of the entire country thinks Bernie’s nonsense is a viable plan for the nation.
While you are 100% correct about anything being possible, I don’t think Bernie has a realistic chance at winning the general election. Any of his gains he might get from young voters 18-29 will be wiped out by voters over 30.
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