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End the farce known as the FISA Court. Burn it to the ground
Flopping Aces ^ | 12-18-19 | DrJohn

Posted on 12/18/2019 8:24:39 AM PST by Starman417

Yesterday the FISA Court issued to strongly worded rebuke of the FBI for its deceptive practices before the Court

In a rare public order Tuesday, the chief judge of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court [FISC] strongly criticized the FBI over its surveillance-application process, giving the bureau until Jan. 10 to come up with solutions, in the wake of findings from Justice Department Inspector General Michael E. Horowitz.

The order, from the court's presiding judge Rosemary M. Collyer, came just a week after the release of Horowitz's withering report about the wiretapping of Carter Page, a former campaign adviser to President Trump.

"The FBI's handling of the Carter Page applications, as portrayed in the [Office of Inspector General] report, was antithetical to the heightened duty of candor described above," Collyer wrote in her four-page order. "The frequency with which representations made by FBI personnel turned out to be unsupported or contradicted by information in their possession, and with which they withheld information detrimental to their case, calls into question whether information contained in other FBI applications is reliable."

Cry me a river
"The [FISA court] expects the government to provide complete and accurate information in every filing with the court," Collyer wrote. "Without it, the [FISA court] cannot properly ensure that the government conducts electronic surveillance for foreign intelligence purposes only when there is a sufficient factual basis."
You don't say.

FBI Director Christopher Wray offered a mea culpa and promised to be a good boy in the future:

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Again, so freaking what?

Eric Clinesmith, the FBI lawyer who altered a document to make Carter Page look like a Russian spy has left the FBI. Who ordered him to alter the email? Who else has been fired other than McCabe? Why are any of the personnel who touched this still at the FBI? Are they going to get nothing more than "Strongly worded letters"?

And as for Collyer- who gives a damn what she thinks now? Who has she summoned to the Court to answer for the malfeasance?

NO ONE.

To make matters worse, Collyer and FISC were notified two years ago of the abuse.

https://twitter.com/DevinNunes/status/1207297762037051394

And what did the Court do?

Nothing.

Imagine a theft from Sotheby's in which a $50 million diamond is stolen. Now imagine that Sotheby's promises more and better security. Now imagine that the FBI comes in and promises to be better next time.

And no one catches or punishes the robbers.

That's the state of the FISC today.

(Excerpt) Read more at Floppingaces.net...


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: fisa; trump
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To: Starman417

one of the key things we fought for in the American Revolution was to prevent any secret courts in this country


21 posted on 12/18/2019 9:26:30 AM PST by faithhopecharity ( “Politicians are not born; they are excreted.” Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: Starman417

One question for anyone that might know: has the FISC court and this spying process ever provided any actionable information that could not have been obtained in a normal manner? If not, why continue to have it around. It is an utter failure.


22 posted on 12/18/2019 9:27:54 AM PST by LaRueLaDue
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To: Starman417

Damn right.


23 posted on 12/18/2019 9:32:14 AM PST by Luke21
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To: HighSierra5

“Another Bush legacy failure.”

The Bush’s are a plague.


24 posted on 12/18/2019 9:33:18 AM PST by Luke21
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To: Starman417

100% AGREE. A make work/money project for very sophisticated criminals. They run circles around their ME mullahs. What’s under YOUR robe I.U.D. or I.E.D.?


25 posted on 12/18/2019 10:11:32 AM PST by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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To: Travis McGee

Thanks. OUTSTANDING information. BUMP!!!


26 posted on 12/18/2019 10:13:07 AM PST by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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To: Starman417

Christopher Wray would HAVE TO BE REPLACED BEFORE ANYTHING IS FIXED.


27 posted on 12/18/2019 10:13:51 AM PST by Maris Crane
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To: Starman417

Shut it down.

Immediately.


28 posted on 12/18/2019 10:17:57 AM PST by greenishness
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To: Starman417

one FISA warrant against Trump staffer Carter Page could be used to legally surveil 25,000 people who were associated with him:

“Journalist Sharyl Attkisson, the host of “Full Measure,” follows up on her interview with former federal prosecutor Sidney Powell about her allegation that the “entire Russia collusion narrative was made up” by anti-Trump political partisans in the FBI and Department of Justice. Attkisson reports how one FISA warrant against Trump staffer Carter Page could be used to legally surveil 25,000 people who were associated with him:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/02/27/sharyl_atkinson_how_comeys_fbi_spied_on_the_trump_campaign.html

NSA Whistleblower: Page FISA Warrant Likely a Gateway to Spy on Entire Trump Campaign
Breitbart ^ | 31 March 2019 | Aaron Klein
Posted on 3/31/2019, 9:24:16 AM by E. Pluribus Unum

The Obama-era FISA warrant obtained to monitor the communications of Carter Page was most likely utilized as a gateway to spy on the rest of Donald Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign, contended William Binney, a former highly placed NSA official turned whistleblower. The same warrant against Page technically could also have been used to legally justify collecting data on the Republican National Committee (RNC) or the leadership of the Republican Party, Binney said.

Binney was an architect of the NSA’s surveillance program. He became a famed whistleblower when he resigned on October 31, 2001 after spending more than 30 years with the agency.

He was speaking during an interview that aired Sunday on this reporter’s weekend talk radio show, “Aaron Klein Investigative Radio,” broadcast on New York’s AM 970 The Answer and NewsTalk 990 AM in Philadelphia.

Binney referred to measures put into place by President Obama in January 2014 that restrict the NSA to collecting data on individuals that are only two steps removed from a target being monitored. He explained that if Page had called anyone from the Trump campaign or the RNC, the NSA could legally have spied not only on that second individual but on others called by the second person.

Stated Binney: “If you get a warrant on say Carter Page and for example he has a call or an email to the Republican National Committee or anybody in the Trump campaign, that warrant then allows them to go out two degrees from the RNC to everybody associated with the RNC and from anyone from the Trump campaign to anyone they are associated with.”

“So effectively what that means is that they had the ability to basically spy on anybody,” he said. “They could spy on everybody on the Republican National Committee or everybody in the...

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29 posted on 12/18/2019 10:59:47 AM PST by Grampa Dave (A FRIVOLOUS Impeachment Vote is a SEDITIOUS CONSPIRACY)
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To: Starman417

Considering that FISA requests are effectively approved 100% of the time (.03% disapproval rate), and less than .5% result in indictments or prosecution, it’s pretty clear that most FISA warrants are a CYA in case the FBI/CIA is caught spying on Americans. I think we need a special council to review every single FISA warrant requested over the past 10 years. Until that is complete, shut it down.


30 posted on 12/18/2019 11:01:11 AM PST by ETCM
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To: PGalt

You bet!


31 posted on 12/18/2019 11:51:49 AM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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NO. It serves a purpose if actually run as its supposed to be.

Burn those who abuse it, those who use it against the law and prosecute them fully.

Every person involved in this criminal fraud needs to be prosecuted and those who KNEW it was a fraud and didnt expose it should lose there jobs/pensions .

Those who issued the orders to falsify evidence and submit it should likewise face conspiracy to commit charges - and get the same penalties.


32 posted on 12/18/2019 12:53:14 PM PST by elbook
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