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1 posted on 08/18/2018 10:38:48 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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This will be an interesting thread.


2 posted on 08/18/2018 10:44:32 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Seizethecarp

Shocked, Shocked!!


3 posted on 08/18/2018 10:45:21 PM PDT by doorgunner69 (no mntion whast)
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The requirement is not being born on American soil, Carl and Mikey, but being natural born.

Obama owes the Intel Community fiction of his documentation to the President/CEO of The Analysis Corp., John Brennan. “BHO II” was placed with SAD and her “marriage” to BHO I was a fiction that had benefits for the three of them, SAD, BHO I and “BHO II”.


4 posted on 08/18/2018 10:47:53 PM PDT by rx (Truth Will Out!)
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To: bitt; LucyT; null and void; Cold Case Posse Supporter; Flotsam_Jetsome; circumbendibus; ...

Ping to Zullo finally revealing major “open secret” (LOL) in at least (count ‘em) two branches of the US intel community that Barry was NOT born in the good ‘ol US of A!

I guess that missing record of inbound flights from Kenya was missing for a reason???

The Deep State whacking Alex Jones, home of Jerome Corsi, a key player in any big push to expose the Deep State Brennan-led Coup to install Obama as president back in 2008 is of great concern to me.

Trump’s move now to strip key players of their security clearances is a good move.


5 posted on 08/18/2018 10:48:25 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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This is kind of for the history books at this point. I think it will be revisited if Kamala Harris runs as neither of her parents were U.S. citizens. Lyn’ Ted explained prior to running for president that he wasn’t eligible. Lots of others are not as well—Little Rubio, Ambassador Haley, etc.


6 posted on 08/18/2018 10:49:39 PM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!y)
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Last one.


7 posted on 08/18/2018 10:53:24 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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how does one download it?


11 posted on 08/18/2018 11:25:33 PM PDT by arthurus (hswt)
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I would think that our Founders would tell us that, if, by virtue of their birth, a person is or has ever been eligible to be the head of state of another country, then that person is not a natural born citizen of the United States.

I'm sure that what they had in mind was preventing a case of divided loyalty on the part of any President.

20 posted on 08/18/2018 11:54:24 PM PDT by William Tell
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Not clickin’ on that.


21 posted on 08/18/2018 11:55:36 PM PDT by Bullish (My tagline is here. you just can't see it.)
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And it didn’t make any difference at all


23 posted on 08/19/2018 12:08:09 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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Pretty sure obozo was not born, he was hatched like the rest of the lizard people.


30 posted on 08/19/2018 12:45:02 AM PDT by Newtoidaho (All I ask of living is to have no chains on me.)
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Pretty sure the framers of the Constitution allowed for their Ambassadors to other countries having a child born outside the US but still a natural born citizen (not dual citizenship) as long as both parents were American citizens at the time.

It’s not so much about where they were born which makes them natural born Americans; it’s who their parents were. In BHO’s case he only had one American parent; a flaky communist mother. The father is still a debatable subject but he wasn’t American.

One thing is for sure; either Congress or the Supreme Court needs to definitively define what it means to be a natural born citizen for the purpose of being qualified to run for the Presidency.


38 posted on 08/19/2018 1:45:06 AM PDT by Boomer (Beware The Obsessed Leftist Pit Bull Haters on FR. Same as gun grabbers.)
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NO $H!T, REALLY,GOSH,GEEWIZ.
AND WHICH ROCKET ENGINEER FIGURED THIS OUT ?
PING ME WHEN THE zer0 IS ABOUT TO SWING BY A ROPE AROUND HIS SCRAWNY NECK SO I CAN WATCH...


49 posted on 08/19/2018 3:15:02 AM PDT by mabarker1 (congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!!)
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"...embroiled in this soft coup to destroy the presidency of the United States"

There is nothing soft about it.

50 posted on 08/19/2018 3:15:42 AM PDT by Savage Beast (President Trump has remained steadfast!This is leadership!Hold steadfast, America!We shall overcome!)
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This is at the basis of the corruption in the FBI et al. They cannot allow the truth about Obama to become established as public knowledge.


51 posted on 08/19/2018 3:19:03 AM PDT by Savage Beast (President Trump has remained steadfast!This is leadership!Hold steadfast, America!We shall overcome!)
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The Constitution, Art. II, says in pertinant part: “No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President;”

Since everyone who was a citizen at the time of adoption is dead we can remove the grandfather clause wording. We are left with “No Person except a natural born Citizen [...] shall be eligible to the Office of President;”

Why does the Constitution speak of “citizens” and separately of “natural born citizens”? Why is the word “natural” inserted? It is a matter of allegiance.

A person can be a “citizen” if they were citizens or subjects in some other country first but have come here and met the naturalization requirements. Also, if one is the offspring of a citizen and a non-citizen, then one is a US citizen. However, in both these cases it can be argued that the person might choose allegiance to their former country or to the country of the foreign-born parent or at least the allegiance might be considered divided. That is, there is no natural allegiance of the offspring to one or the other parent’s country. It is this divided or alienated allegiance that the Constitutional provision is designed to prohibit.

If, however, both of one’s parents are themselves US citizens at the time of one's birth, then one is a “citizen” as well as a “natural born citizen”. The “natural born citizen” is one who at birth has no natural allegiance to any other country and the Framers felt could be trusted to be loyal to the US and not act as a foreign agent. In short, a natural born citizen is one who cannot be argued to be anything but; there is no possible argument that he might be a citizen elsewhere. [footnote: Also, in their time, the rules of royal succession held sway throught much of the world and the Founders wished to forstall any potential claims by the crowned heads of Europe or their scions to sovereignty in the US.]

Note that native born is not the same as natural born. Native born simply refers to the place of one’s birth, i.e., of one’s nativity. The term does not speak to the legal circumstances of a birth, merely to its location.

53 posted on 08/19/2018 3:34:40 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck ( Socialism consumes EVERYTHING!)
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I believe Obama was born in Hawaii. However, he probably not Barack Obama Sr.’s son. I think Frank Marshall Davis was his father.


54 posted on 08/19/2018 3:49:11 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople (GOP- 65 House and 12 Senate seat pickups in November)
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I’m surprised. Barack Hussein seemed as American as his hero, Karl Marx.


56 posted on 08/19/2018 4:21:55 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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If and when it is ever 100% documented that Hussein is a fraud, would these frauds then be removed from the Supreme Court?

If Obama is a fraud, they cannot sit on the court. Period.

Same with the hundreds of other Obama appointed judges at all levels.

57 posted on 08/19/2018 5:00:41 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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So, if this is ever proven would the appointments of Kagan and Sotomayor become annulled?


60 posted on 08/19/2018 5:12:55 AM PDT by CarolinaReaganFan
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