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Restaurant's discount for churchgoers stirs discontent among non-worshippers
WSFA-TV ^ | July 20, 2018

Posted on 07/20/2018 11:53:00 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

CHEVIOT, OH (WLWT/CNN) – A restaurant owner in Ohio is facing legal questions after offering a discount to churchgoers.

"This was the furthest thing from my mind when we came up with this idea," said Justin Watson, the owner of Starters Cafe in Cheviot, OH.

Watson opened the restaurant about seven weeks ago.

He said all he was trying to do was stir up some business with his discount offer to churches. Instead, he stirred up a hornet's nest.

"Any congregation, any religion, any area, whatever, as long as you brought me a church bulletin, I would give you 10 percent off your meal for the day," Watson said. "It seemed pretty simple, and here we are."

Watson said he got angry comments from some saying he was discriminating against non-religious people.

Someone also passed along a form letter from the nonprofit Freedom from Religion Foundation, telling people to alert the owner to the illegality of the practice.

Jim Helton with American Atheists said legality is not always clear-cut in such cases, but he said Watson's actions appear illegal.

"In this case, it was illegal because it was only offering to churches," said Helton, adding that the discount is different from a senior citizen discount or a military discount because religion or lack of religion are considered protected classes.

But there's not a consensus on the issue.

Attorney Jason Phillabaum said he doesn't see anything wrong with giving a discount to churchgoers.

"The law prohibits discrimination. And in this particular case, he's not denying service. He's offering a discount if someone does something specific like bring in a church bulletin," Phillabaum said.

To be on the safe side, and to make his offer to even more people, Watson has changed his discount policy.

"In response, we just removed the 10 percent offer and sent a letter of apology and tried to clear the board. So now we're just offering, on Sunday, noon to four, 10 percent for everybody," Watson said.

It's a deal he thinks will be more universally palatable.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Food; Local News; Politics
KEYWORDS: church; discounts; ffrf; food; waronchrist; waronsmallbiz
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1 posted on 07/20/2018 11:53:00 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

funny how the media tells us when it’s ok to discriminate (religious, political) and when it’s not ok to discriminate (sexual). Sometimes I just wish ww3 would break out and give people a real reason to complain and worry


2 posted on 07/21/2018 12:14:50 AM PDT by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Should change it to a 90% additional charge for anyone showing a Freedom from Religion Foundation pamphlet.


3 posted on 07/21/2018 12:15:58 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

It’s coming from the deliberate abuse of a poorly written amendment that was originally intended to protect blacks from being denied necessary services.

It’s being turned on its head by the gay lobby and the abortion-atheist lobby.


4 posted on 07/21/2018 12:20:47 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well they can go to Hell!


5 posted on 07/21/2018 12:20:58 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not really out to get you.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Does this mean that student discounts are illegal?


6 posted on 07/21/2018 12:23:24 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob ("Other People's Money" = The life blood of Liberalism)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans
"Sometimes I just wish ww3 would break out..."

Careful what you wish for....MSM is helping to push for the same thing...hoping President Trump will be tricked into starting that war...

7 posted on 07/21/2018 12:27:58 AM PDT by yoe
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Call it a “Gospel lunch Sunday” and play gospel on the PA. This makes sense for other reasons. Not all revivals begin in pews.

Sometimes conservatives bitch too much too.


8 posted on 07/21/2018 12:32:10 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“...because religion or lack of religion are considered protected classes.”

This must be the atheist that is standing up for the bakery that didn’t bake a cake for a gay wedding.
/s


9 posted on 07/21/2018 12:33:29 AM PDT by 21twelve
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To: 21twelve

Baking the cake never was the question. It was inscribing it to the occasion — a 1st Amendment freedom issue.


10 posted on 07/21/2018 12:35:28 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s his business and he can do what he wants. Live with it you radicals.


11 posted on 07/21/2018 12:52:53 AM PDT by taxesareforever (Islam is an ideology. It is NOT a religion.)
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To: taxesareforever

But he’s not free from the consequences.


12 posted on 07/21/2018 1:00:52 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: piasa
It’s coming from the deliberate abuse of a poorly written amendment that was originally intended to protect blacks from being denied necessary services.

Amendment number, please!

Regards,

13 posted on 07/21/2018 1:02:38 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

The poor guys just opened the business. Weren’t bitchin about nothing, just trying to drum up business.


14 posted on 07/21/2018 1:11:02 AM PDT by healy61
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans
If you read up on the Iraq war, there are news story's from regular people caught up in the mess. a lot of people that were killed had nothing to do with the war. It was revenge killings ! a neighbor mad at another neighbor sees the chaos of war and figures he can kill his neighbor and get away with it. * My point* Watch what you wish for.. if ww3 breaks out, expect it to be “ the Purge” x 10,000... with the left showing up at you door with bats and a paint ball gun... Keep your ammo handy.. lots of ammo...lots
15 posted on 07/21/2018 1:11:06 AM PDT by Ikeon (Its all about power, the winners love the system the losers all complain... until they are in power.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Gotta wonder if the “war on Christ” is entirely from the left side. The Cross had two arms, didn’t it?

Sometimes what we are civically free to do isn’t always the godly thing.

In this case there is a problem. Does being a worshiper mean going to some conventional format “church”? Often those who found Jesus attractive didn’t go to the temple at all. They were unclean. Yet for them, too, the loaves and fishes were multiplied.


16 posted on 07/21/2018 1:15:19 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: healy61

Talking about the conservative alassing about them.


17 posted on 07/21/2018 1:16:02 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Atheism is not a religion—there is no unlawful discrimination here.


18 posted on 07/21/2018 1:30:54 AM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: kaehurowing

It’s kind of a “worship of mind” religion. Atheist groups have managed to acquire some of the same legal umbrellas as religious groups. Some tolerate civic Christianity, some want to hound it away.


19 posted on 07/21/2018 1:43:15 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just buy ads in the bulletins - a “clip this coupon” thing.

Heck, you can buy such ads in newspapers, so why not church bulletins?


20 posted on 07/21/2018 1:49:25 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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