Posted on 04/11/2018 4:47:07 AM PDT by w1n1
Battle of the two powerhouse handguns.
Both the Glock 10mm and the .357 magnum are serious personal defense calibers.
Which caliber is best against real muscles or something that simulates it.
YouTuber mark3smle tests this out by demonstrating which caliber is capable of against a ballistic gel.
Ballistic gelatin is a testing medium scientifically correlated to swine muscle tissue (which in turn is comparable to human muscle tissue), in which the effects of bullet wounds can be simulated.
In other word, the ballistic gel gives you an idea of the path of the bullet when it penetrates a target tissue that is similar to real muscle.
You can observe the length of the penetration and the thickness of the canal. Normally, the beginning entrance is usually where its thick.
This thickness is the density of where muscle tissues are being damaged.
These two powerful cartridges penetration are quite impressive. Traditionally, the .357 magnum has a long track record of a mini-hand cannon for personal defense.
In mark3smle test you can see the .357 penetration at 22 inches.
The 10mm is a newcomer in the hunting world, but has become a big player in the market for bear hunters or anyone needing extra power. The 10mm penetration was around 16 inches.
Without talking about the numbers, both calibers are very impressive for power. If you’re an auto frame person, go with a Glock 10mm.
If you’re into Dirty Harry mini hand cannon, go with a .357 mag.
But keep in mind it is also about shot placement, if you get your shot onto a vital target then it doesn’t matter if you have a 10mm or a 357 magnum. Both will do the job. Which would you carry? See the full video comparison of 10mm vs 357 magnum here.
I like a .357 revolver but the author of the article is correct -it is all about hitting your target in a high stress situation. Practice, practice, practice.
A carry gun should be light enough that you DO carry it. A pocket cannon does you no good if you leave it in the gun safe.
my woods gun is a Taurus 357 7 shot. I carry in a chest holster. I was jumped last fall in the dark climbing out of my stand by a big cat. Never saw him, only heard him...was reaching for the 357 when he ran off. I won’t go into the woods without it. You just never ever know...
Rossi 410 Judge or Circuit Judge
Hand cannon that shoots 410 shotgun OR .45 cal bullets.
I rarely carry it on my person, too heavy, unless I am open carrying, sometimes it's in my vehicle but there is nothing wrong with a 10 MM.
I have a featherlite S&W snubnose that takes .38special or .357magnum. Firing .357magnums is like throwing rocks...BIG rocks.
Some my own quick thoughts on the topic:
A revolver and a semi are completely different balls of wax, and that’s going beyond the obvious design differences and capacities.
While it should be known that firing a gun from a moving car is 100% illegal _all of the time_ (even if you’re a cop) that you might want to still plan for the event, a revolver in the car means no spent shells hitting occupants in your car (Got a child seat ? think of where those cartridges are going). The revolver also has a flash at the cylinder, which may be near the people you’re trying to protect as well.
But you can put a revolver down in the seat and know that it’s back in DA, and doesn’t need to be decocked. You can thumb the hammer (if equipped and exposed, of course) and know what condition it’s in (If you put in your holster, or even between the seats or in your waistband (Plaxico carry) you will know if the trigger is being actuated)
Using a striker-fired semi from the seated car position is risky as hell. You can’t do the two activities that are present: Driving and shooting. If you need to put your DA/SA down, or your striker fired pistol down you need to be assured of what it’s status is after doing so. Many semis don’t allow that.
There are about a BILLION PEOPLE out there who are carrying their striker fired pistols in the wrong holster. I say this all the time, and people think it’s some sort of joke or quip - it’s serious business. A striker fired pistol’s holster should take you a while to find, possibly costing you over $300 in failed attempts at holsters until you finally smarten up and buy a Milt-Sparks for about $150 and 1 year’s wait.
As far as 10mm in these pistols we are all under kind of a spell. A .40 caliber is very close to a 10mm. The Desert Eagle can fire a 10mm AE bullet which is enormous. The Bren-Ten firing experience is actually pretty calm and sublime.
Put a 10mm in a lightweight composite frame and it will hurt like holding a damned fire cracker. In a steel frame it’s a different ballgame.
These larger, high pressure rounds in these small plastic frames make for a whallop no matter the size of the gun. It’s all like getting horse-kicked in the hand. And .357Sig might out-explode the 10mm anyway. That thing is like a damned laser pistol.
I do allot of hog hunting with handguns and have taken them with a wide variety of calibers. I keep it simple my choice in calibers are 45 Long Colt, 44 Mag and I wouldn’t be shy about taking one with a properly loaded 357 Mag. Velocity and bullet design play a large part in their performance. Heavy bullets designed for mild expansion and deep penetration with enough velocity to make them perform properly.
As far as my 357 loads go they’re not something you’d want to shoot through your prized Colt Pythons. Most of my hunting pistols are Ruger single actions.
Apples and oranges. .357 for revolvers. Compare with .38 special and .44 special/ magnum.
10mm semi auto. Compare with.40 S&W. And .45acp (perhaps .357 sig would be a better comparison)
Though there is striking balistic similarities between 10mm and rimmed revolver rounds like the oft ignored 41 magnum.
Oh and yeah…there has been attempts at chambering semi autos for rimmed rounds and revolvers for rimmless rounds. But they’re not exactly standard practice
Both are excellent rounds.
The big advantage of the 10mm is capacity.
Yes.
Couldn't hit anything reliably past 10 yds with the .410.
He figured that the rifled barrel spun the shot cup and the centrifugal force scattered the shot.
Dan Wesson .357mag with a snubbie. 6 extra rounds. Every day. 125 gn Hornaday XTP at 1200fps. Working on a carry load for 110 grain XTPs if I can find 4 or 5 boxes at once.
It helps an awful lot if you practice with your carry piece for 25 or 30 years, constantly and consistently!
“Though there is striking balistic similarities between 10mm and rimmed revolver rounds like the oft ignored 41 magnum.”
That’s true on paper but I recently saw a video that showed some commercially loaded 10mm were no more powerful than commercial 40 S&W. It depends on the brand you buy.
A six shooter vs a 15 shooter....wait...let me think
That is the only reason I went to a Glock 29 over my S&W Model 19 or Model 28, .357’s. I carry the Glock in my vehicle and have carried the .357’s before that, but just wanted more rounds.
In my yard and about my property I carry an old Virginian Dragoon in .44 Magnum with a snake load for the first round and hunting loads to follow. I encounter, snakes, bears and on occasion 2 legged interlopers. I live out in the sticks so I am the sheriff of my property until sheriff’s representative arrive in some cases some forty-five minutes after the initial call.
No.
It is not "also" about shot placement.
It is ONLY about shot placement.
Actual SAAMI spec has the 10mm dead between the .357 and .41 mags for power.
I roll my own in both 10mm and .357. I carry the 10mm and shoot my old S&W 19 for fun.
Just saw where manufacturers are making .410 ammo specifically for these revolvers and looks like it takes care of the spinning shot cup thing and groups looked pretty good.
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