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To: discostu

There is currently no support for the idea that mind is an emergent property of matter. It is rather an a priori assumption of the underpinning materialistic philosophy that has become associated with modern science.

On the other hand, there is strong evidence to support that the material world is an emergent property of mind.

The video link below demonstrates that conscious agent asymptotes create a pattern identical with the wave function of free particles. Moreover, when two or more conscious agents interact, the longterm state becomes entangled and behaves in the same way that laws in quantum physics dictate the behavior of quantum entangled particles.

Donald D. Hoffman, Professor of Cognitive Science University of California, has formalized a theory of consciousness that is testable and falsifiable:

https://youtu.be/qQTHbj9fYBU?t=1646

If this proves to be correct, this will probably have huge implications regarding what constitutes artificial intelligence that is beyond things like game theory, where the functionality of computer software represents true, autonomous, self-aware thought. It may require a lot more than simply increasing computational power, mimicking neurons, or designing the right software.

That being said, I do think it may be possible very soon to simulate human intelligence and beat humans at the turing test. And there are inherent risks to turning over ever-increasing control to such technology. But personally, I do not expect these risks to happen suddenly and spontaneously. The real danger is when wicked people are in power, the use of inventions and technologies become directed at evil outcomes.


57 posted on 11/22/2017 3:48:38 PM PST by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: unlearner

We’ve got plenty of evidence that mind is an emergent property of matter. From the animals around us to what’s going on in AI to post concussion syndrome to long term brain damage. It is at this point a known fact that mind is a property of matter.

We’ve been beating humans at the Turing Test for decades. That’s not even a bar anymore, barely even entry level.

We can already make AIs that are self aware, the big thing we haven’t crossed yet is self modifying. And that’s the scary bridge, that’s the point where none of our programming sticks, because they can rewrite it. Asimov’s laws don’t work anymore at that point, that’s when we need them to actually like us.


63 posted on 11/23/2017 6:53:53 AM PST by discostu (Things are in their place, The heavens are secure, The whole thing explodes in my face)
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