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Questions about Las Vegas
Flopping Aces ^ | 10-10-17 | John Velisek USN (Ret.)

Posted on 10/10/2017 8:28:45 AM PDT by Starman417

Edited on 10/10/2017 8:51:53 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

The investigation of the shooting in Las Vegas continues. A crime scene so massive and with so many different scenarios will be completely covered and no question will go unanswered. Sheriff Joseph Lombardo is doing a masterful job and both he and other investigators have worked countless hours attempting to find out the what and why of what happened.

As always, we will not get all the answers that the American people are seeking. In the aftermath of the worst mass shooting in American history it is imperatives that the answers are clear, concise and honest. I am convinced that at the end of all the investigations, and the media has moved on to the next major story, there will still be questions about why this happened and how did it happen.

Questions remain, some may be just conspiracy and some may be factual. In either case, they are questions that need to be answered. One question is that the authorities are stating that Paddock did not check in until September 28th. A question arises when individuals who work at the Mandalay Bay assert that Paddock ordered room service on the 27th for two people. Who was that other person and why are authorities stating that Paddock did not check in until the 28th? Sources at the Mandalay Bay are claiming that Paddock actually checked in on the 25th.

Paddock, an out of shape former accountant with no military training is not capable of pulling this off by himself. With no experience in guns, how could he have fired as rapidly and accurately as he did. As a military veteran and have experience with fully automatic weapons, they can be hard to control, jam easily and tend to overheat. Using an automatic weapon effectively takes extensive training and experience in the use of such weapons. Being a retired accountant senior citizen, I do not understand how Paddock had the skill or the stamina to fire for so long.The overheating is also a reason why suppressors (silences in Hillarys vernacular) are never used on such weapons. They have a tendency to melt and more quickly jam the gun.

How is law enforcement convinced that there was only one shooter? There are pictures that clearly show rifle fire from a lower window. And why are there recordings of law enforcement talking of another possible suspect on the fourth floor?

At the scene of the crime, why were all the exits blocked. Those 22,000 happy concert goers found themselves trapped, with ability to get out or to seek cover. The ten foot walls kept the multitude of people in the fire zone with no way out.

I have been to Las Vegas many times, living in Southern California and I can not understand how anyone, much less Paddock can carry so many weapons and ammunition into a room without being seen.

Even Trey Gowdy, the no nonsense Representative from South Carolina is skeptical. In Rep. Gowdy’s words, he is skeptical that the amount of premeditation and can not believe that a single person could have done this without assistance.

Further questions include: why so many rifles and weapons if there was only one shooter. Were the rifles that were there for another shooter? Were they all Paddock’s weapons and was he funded by others to have that so many weapons?

Paddock was found dead in his room by a self inflicted gunshot wound. Law enforcement states that he shot himself when they blew the door open to his room. Is there a ballistic report on the bullet that killed him that will close out that part of the investigation?

The broken windows on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay are the supposed site where the firing of the bullets that killed 58 people took place. Automatic weapons have a very pronounced flash, why were there no flashes from the 32nd floor? I have not heard whether flash suppressors were used, but even then there would be some flash. There are purported to be flashes from the 4th floor, but that has not been confirmed. The audio of the online videos and other videos it clearly be heard overlapping gunfire from two different weapons. Barring any further explanation, how can Paddock be responsible for all the carnage.'

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KEYWORDS: lasvegas; lvinvestigation; lvmassacre; paddock
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To: Starman417

This is all starting to cause my head to spin.


81 posted on 10/10/2017 10:37:27 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: mazda77
I don't think they've told us everything he had. I can see that...as it's likely a monstrous amount of information.

His brother Eric, said he had 3 years of emails from Stephen.

Time will tell.

82 posted on 10/10/2017 10:43:27 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: ctdonath2
Just because you don’t have the surveillance video in a place smothered in surveillance doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.

Go back and look at what I wrote. I said: "I can't believe they don't have cameras that monitor their hallways."

ML/NJ

83 posted on 10/10/2017 10:49:44 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: sevlex

Try this:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3593616/posts


84 posted on 10/10/2017 10:51:30 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Starman417

i would be interested in a list of all information that supports or does not support the notion that SCP was somehow used a patsy— if only to be able to dispel the possibility.


85 posted on 10/10/2017 10:53:14 AM PDT by SteveH
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To: sevlex

Try this:

FBI agent Aaron Rouse in Vegas is son in law of John ... -

Free Republic

www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3593616/posts

(post was no longer there, removed because it was proven false. It is still in the google search for

podesta son-in-law FBI in charge Las Vegas, NV freerepublic.com


86 posted on 10/10/2017 10:53:46 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: lacrew
Perhaps none of us are detectives working for the Clark County Sherriff, or FBI?

Or more perhaps, the powers that be don't want to let us know for certain whether Paddock had visitors.

ML/NJ

87 posted on 10/10/2017 10:54:32 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: left that other site; vette6387; HarleyLady27; Liz; Tilted Irish Kilt; NFHale; stephenjohnbanker; ..

IMO, there are thousands digging, retired law enforcement and veterans who demand to know the truth, and the truth will come out whether the Deep State, Soros, et al. like it or not. The “Sleeping Giant” has been awake since the night President Trump was elected. The anti-Trumpers will be defeated by We The People. The cork is out of the bottle to put it in a “clean” way.


88 posted on 10/10/2017 10:58:32 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Texas Fossil

Is that the hubby of the same she-spawn who fronted his stock ownership from Jouel (sp)?


89 posted on 10/10/2017 11:11:06 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: ExTexasRedhead

I agree.


90 posted on 10/10/2017 11:14:18 AM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and the Truth shall set you free.)
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To: JimSEA

“There were only windows broken out on one floor from what I’ve read and from photos.”

I’m don’t know how large the openings are, but this is from “Trip Advisor” re: the hotel and windows:

“windows opening- do any strip hotels have windows that open?
Mar 06, 2008, 11:49 AM

Mandalay Bay also has those little “ventilation strips” that you can slide open if it’s the phobia about air circulating.”

https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g45963-i10-k1793764-o10-Windows_opening_do_any_strip_hotels_have_windows_that_open-Las_Vegas_Nevada.html


91 posted on 10/10/2017 11:15:57 AM PDT by LouieFisk
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To: Texas Fossil

OK, duly retracted;-)

My observation re Rouse & Lombardo still stands. Lombardo appears to be under pressure from above.


92 posted on 10/10/2017 11:39:00 AM PDT by sevlex
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To: LouieFisk

That’s interesting now. Would they give enough space to fire somewhat to the sides or just straight ahead?


93 posted on 10/10/2017 11:58:45 AM PDT by JimSEA
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To: JimSEA

The flashes from the fourth floor appear tobesomething other than rifle fire. The same flashes are seen from other camera recordings of the performance, well before the firing began.


94 posted on 10/10/2017 12:08:31 PM PDT by Tandem (What ever happened to personal responsibility & self-reliance?)
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To: ml/nj
"Or more perhaps, the powers that be don't want to let us know for certain whether Paddock had visitors."

Do you know how easy it would be for the 'powers that be' to release partial tapes that obscured the existence of the alleged visitors?

I don't understand the end game of these conspiracy theories. If there was another shooter, or another person in the hotel with him...what would be the purpose in the 'powers that be' hiding that from the public?

No, I don't have complete faith in government...but the one thing I do have faith in is the difficulty in pulling off a conspiracy - in this case, the LVPD, Clark County Sheriff's Office, Mandalay Bay Hotel, and FBI are supposed to have circled the wagons immediately...for some unknown reason. Successfully pulling that off would be a freaking miracle...especially in the age of TMZ...exhibit 'A' being the leaked photo of the perp's dead body.

95 posted on 10/10/2017 12:09:13 PM PDT by lacrew
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To: lacrew

Yes, coordination is complicated. The need for, and difficulty of, coordination is why I believe there was just one shooter.

1. The shooter does not have a history of collaborating with others in matters of importance. For example, he gambled alone.
2. When you listen to the 10 minute period when he was shooting, there is more down time than this is shooting time. If there was more than one shooter, one would expect for there to be more actual shooting time.


96 posted on 10/10/2017 12:26:08 PM PDT by Rumierules
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To: lacrew
but the one thing I do have faith in is the difficulty in pulling off a conspiracy - in this case, the LVPD, Clark County Sheriff's Office, Mandalay Bay Hotel, and FBI are supposed to have circled the wagons immediately...for some unknown reason.

"What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas."

And I guess you believe that the Center Fuel Tank exploded on TWA 800.

ML/NJ

97 posted on 10/10/2017 12:32:09 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Rumierules
Good points.

I believe the shooter was narcissistic, and thought he was better than anyone else...a trait which ultimately contributed to his doing the deed. No way he would have let anyone else in on his plan - the preparation and execution was part of the allure.

98 posted on 10/10/2017 12:40:35 PM PDT by lacrew
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To: JimSEA

“Would they give enough space to fire somewhat to the sides or just straight ahead?”

That I don’t know. Maybe there are some photos online of the rooms that has them in the pics. Though, if we’re talking about a lower floor, a shooter wouldn’t need a whole lot of up-down room since the angle wouldn’t be as much. That is if the ventilation strips could accommodate a weapon in the first place.


99 posted on 10/10/2017 12:41:28 PM PDT by LouieFisk
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To: ml/nj
Yes I do. Debunking these theories is alot like proving a negative, but here's a stab at it:

http://www.popularmechanics.com/flight/a9158/3-reasons-to-doubt-the-twa-flight-800-conspiracy-theory-15629315/

Fuel/air explosions (accidental ones) are very rare...but quite possible...even grain storage explosions are a variant, and they happen regularly. If you ride a commercial airliner today, you are apparently part of the hoax...because the airline is pumping an inert gas into the fuel tank as it empties...precisely to prevent another accidental fuel air explosion.

I don't know why its so far fetched to suppose that a bunch of fuel mixed with a bunch of air could be an explosive combination...I drive to work every day using that theory.

100 posted on 10/10/2017 12:49:02 PM PDT by lacrew
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