Posted on 10/10/2017 8:28:45 AM PDT by Starman417
Edited on 10/10/2017 8:51:53 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
The investigation of the shooting in Las Vegas continues. A crime scene so massive and with so many different scenarios will be completely covered and no question will go unanswered. Sheriff Joseph Lombardo is doing a masterful job and both he and other investigators have worked countless hours attempting to find out the what and why of what happened.
As always, we will not get all the answers that the American people are seeking. In the aftermath of the worst mass shooting in American history it is imperatives that the answers are clear, concise and honest. I am convinced that at the end of all the investigations, and the media has moved on to the next major story, there will still be questions about why this happened and how did it happen.
Questions remain, some may be just conspiracy and some may be factual. In either case, they are questions that need to be answered. One question is that the authorities are stating that Paddock did not check in until September 28th. A question arises when individuals who work at the Mandalay Bay assert that Paddock ordered room service on the 27th for two people. Who was that other person and why are authorities stating that Paddock did not check in until the 28th? Sources at the Mandalay Bay are claiming that Paddock actually checked in on the 25th.
Paddock, an out of shape former accountant with no military training is not capable of pulling this off by himself. With no experience in guns, how could he have fired as rapidly and accurately as he did. As a military veteran and have experience with fully automatic weapons, they can be hard to control, jam easily and tend to overheat. Using an automatic weapon effectively takes extensive training and experience in the use of such weapons. Being a retired accountant senior citizen, I do not understand how Paddock had the skill or the stamina to fire for so long.The overheating is also a reason why suppressors (silences in Hillarys vernacular) are never used on such weapons. They have a tendency to melt and more quickly jam the gun.
How is law enforcement convinced that there was only one shooter? There are pictures that clearly show rifle fire from a lower window. And why are there recordings of law enforcement talking of another possible suspect on the fourth floor?
At the scene of the crime, why were all the exits blocked. Those 22,000 happy concert goers found themselves trapped, with ability to get out or to seek cover. The ten foot walls kept the multitude of people in the fire zone with no way out.
I have been to Las Vegas many times, living in Southern California and I can not understand how anyone, much less Paddock can carry so many weapons and ammunition into a room without being seen.
Even Trey Gowdy, the no nonsense Representative from South Carolina is skeptical. In Rep. Gowdy’s words, he is skeptical that the amount of premeditation and can not believe that a single person could have done this without assistance.
Further questions include: why so many rifles and weapons if there was only one shooter. Were the rifles that were there for another shooter? Were they all Paddock’s weapons and was he funded by others to have that so many weapons?
Paddock was found dead in his room by a self inflicted gunshot wound. Law enforcement states that he shot himself when they blew the door open to his room. Is there a ballistic report on the bullet that killed him that will close out that part of the investigation?
The broken windows on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay are the supposed site where the firing of the bullets that killed 58 people took place. Automatic weapons have a very pronounced flash, why were there no flashes from the 32nd floor? I have not heard whether flash suppressors were used, but even then there would be some flash. There are purported to be flashes from the 4th floor, but that has not been confirmed. The audio of the online videos and other videos it clearly be heard overlapping gunfire from two different weapons. Barring any further explanation, how can Paddock be responsible for all the carnage.'
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“I don’t know why its so far fetched to suppose that a bunch of fuel mixed with a bunch of air could be an explosive combination”
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I don’t have a dog in this particular fight, but it doesn’t seem unreasonable that some people don’t accept the explanation. There was Pan Am Flight 103 about 6 years before and, even half a year after TWA 180, there was this:
“Six months into the most costly plane crash investigation ever, there are still more questions than answers about the deadly mid-air explosion of TWA Flight 800.
“All three theories — a bomb, a missile or mechanical failure — remain,” Jim Hall, chairman of the National Transportation Safety Board, said Thursday.”
http://www.cnn.com/US/9701/17/twa/index.html
Some people find Jackboots to be tasty like ice cream. Some ask questions.
I trust the FBI implicitly. I mean Comey, Mueller, McCabe? We're talking a veritable Knights of the Round Table.
Interesting isn't it that the middle is missing.
I'm guessing the middle is where he was shot. Must have been gut wrenchingly painful.
Regarding the shooter’s suicide photo. Wouldn’t a headshot under the chin, exiting out the back/top of head produce a very messy scene with blood and brains spattered everywhere?
How are the bullets around his head are spot free? Why only a pool of blood below the bullets and no spatter marks?
The photo lacks any kind of brain matter.
It was an accidental death.
Well then you're an idiot.
Popular Mechanics would seem to be your Scientific Journal of choice, and for good reason. Jet Fuel (kerosene, really) will not ignite under normal pressure conditions. Get yourself some. Shake it up to try to get some vapors, and throw a match in. Not much will happen.
Then try the same thing with gasoline, and FR will be the better for it. (And it would also be dangerous to do this with grain.)
ML/NJ
Trust me, and I'm sure there is concensus on this my FRiend, you are 180 degrees off on that. Go chase down a contrail or something, but quit polluting the board with half baked conspiracy theories.
Wherever the initial shot went, splatter obviously went elsewhere.
He fell, and blood subsequently seeped thru the carpet under the shells.
I honestly don’t know what you are talking about.
Something to do with accusations against Amir Kahn?
I have absolutely no knowledge of anything you mentioned.
Only stated the the FBI agent in charge in Las Vegas is no John Poedesta’s son-in-law. Not sure where that accusation came from, but it has been shown to be totally false.
las vegas shooting doctored timeline permits paddock as patsy conjecture
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Posted on 10/10/2017, 9:09:22 PM by SteveH
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3593825/posts
Good post!
“...he was back in Mesquite on the 28th.”
I read that he was back in Mesquite shortly before the shooting, captured on a home security camera and heading in the direction of the shooting area out in the desert past his house. The shooting area is just a spot that people know about and go - not a range or anything. I would guess they are checking out the folks that go there, and hopefully getting some insight on the shooter.
Why do you want the recipe for enchiladas before you die?
Lombardo, under pressure from above?
Of course he is.
He is an honest sheriff, what needs examining is unfortunately high above his pay grade, in my opinion.
Exactly. Unless he wanted to establish where he was but then he'd have stayed for lunch to be seen by more. None of it makes sense unless he was truly off his rocker.
I suggest you do a FR keyword search on TWA800. Get back to me if you see any thread where even five percent of the posts believe the center fuel tank nonsense.
ML/NJ
The Men in Black who work inside these secret facilities actually wear brightly colored coats, as part of a continuing ruse they play on the American people. You see, these agents provocateurs have convinced us idiots that jet fuel goes to vapor at 100 degrees F., and we've bought into the ridiculous notion that airplanes occasionally catch fire - thus the cover story of the airport "Fire Truck" was born.
In order to continue the trickery, the CIA periodically puts gasoline (unlike Jet Fuel, gasoline can catch fire) in an airplane to make it catch fire or even blow up. The most famous of these episodes was a false flag incident conducted on Sep 11, 2001 - only the smartest among us know that jet fuel could never blow up in a giant fireball like that.
And of course they make an occasional spectacle of speeding down an airport runway to chase down a plane in trouble. They spray foam all over the place, and tell us idiots that its meant to prevent the conversion of a liquid fuel into flammable vapors and mixing with oxygen. But the wisest of us all know exactly what that foam is for - its really Contrail Juice, which gets loaded into the planes. This is why this Block-Op "Fire Truck" cover story is always at the airport.
If a lunatic is standing on a street corner, most sane people will walk by and try to not even look at him. Some other lunatics may come to the corner and join in, because they enjoy the positive feedback loop. Just because the sane people don't post to the thread, it doesn't mean they aren't shaking their heads in disbelief.
Why don't you do as I suggested and find a FR thread on TWA800 that has even five percent of the posts that appear to agree with the center fuel tank nonsense?
ML/NJ
If a lunatic is standing on a street corner, most sane people will walk by and try to not even look at him. Some other lunatics may come to the corner and join in, because they enjoy the positive feedback loop. Just because the sane people don’t post to the thread, it doesn’t mean they aren’t shaking their heads in disbelief.
My take is that the locals were trying to hide their slow response and FBI made them 'revise' their story.
The locals also tried to blame the security guard for not calling in right away after getting shot, but it turns out he did.
If Lombardi is under pressure from above its because he's been shading the truth.
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