Posted on 10/03/2017 4:32:30 PM PDT by TMA62
"....According to police radio transmissions, a group of officers was at the gunman’s door, and had locked down the 32nd floor, by about 10:25 p.m. but waited until about 11:21 p.m. — more than an hour after the attack began— before they blew open the door to enter, the recording shows."
(Excerpt) Read more at newsweek.com ...
Does this make any sense at all? Was the Paddock still shooting after the police arrived at his door (10:25pm)? Why did they wait that long? How many people were getting shot down below between 10:25 and 11:21??
What are your thoughts on this? This does not sound right at all.
PS: While I know the source is Newsweek, many others are beginning to asking the timeliness of the police response.
when i heard the police scanner recording the cops radioed his exact room location about 15 min after shooting.
A few were already on the floor but not going in.
They called for a swat then. It wouldn’t surprise me if it took another 45 min to go in
Also, Marktwain has the correct take on this. See post 8.
I'd guess that the appearance of the guard ended his shooting spree. At that point, he turned his attention towards repelling a police assault team. After some reflection, he must have decided to kill himself rather than risk getting shot, treated and put on trial.
I’ve heard that from the time the shooting started until the police entered the room was seventy-two minutes.
You can fly from San Francisco to Las Vegas in about that much time.
Just saying.
THIS NEEDS TO BE INVESTIGATED. This is unbelievable delay ,if true? How many were shot while this needless delay occurred. This happened at the gay bar in Orlando as well. Police froze in fear while 54 minutes went by. I understand the caution to a point but 72 minutes?? Somebody do something.
The firing lasted 9 minutes. (I’m sure it seemed like an eternity)
Reports say a security guard and a local policeman located the shooter and tried to breech the door and were fired upon. Security guard was shot. They backed away and they now think the shooter shot himself at that point.
It did take SWAT an hour, but the firing had stopped. Allowing the SWAT team to cautiously take the position.
The shooting lasted for 9 mins.
things don;t happen in seconds like on TV.
They arrive, the security guards that tried to get in have been shot. They secure the area, look for more than one location, try to make contact, decide to blow the door, wait for supplies to blow the door arrive, try to place supplies to blow the door without getting shot too, move to a safe place, blow the door, try not to get killed by booby-traps... secure the scene.
It does seem like a long-ish time.. but it is plausible.
The mass killer stopped shooting after police and hotel security showed up at his door after about 13 minutes, at 10:21 or a little earlier. That is when he likely committed suicide.
http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2017/10/the-timeline-of-las-vegas-mass-shooting.html
“The shooting lasted for 9 mins.”
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The police did not know that it was over. Paddock could have been reloading/re-arming. They did not not know he had already shot himself. Again, why did the police not enter sooner? For a city as big as Vegas, it takes almost an hour for a SWAT to show up??
Well, I’m not going to second guess the cops; they have their procedures that they must go through and I know nothing about that. However, it does seem to me that a more effective approach might’ve been to send police snipers to the scene immediately after the first call came in. I think if they had done that they could’ve killed Paddock within a couple of minutes after they arrived.
“Why did they wait that long? “
They were waiting for SWAT-——who would be trained and properly equipped.
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It did take SWAT an hour, but the firing had stopped. Allowing the SWAT team to cautiously take the position.
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I understand the SWAT team had to climb the stairs to that floor because the elevators had been shut down per the request of the LV police Dept. It would take some time to cautiously go up that many floors.
The shooting lasted about ten minutes from what I’ve read. As long as the shooting stopped, they knew he wasn’t going anywhere, what’s the rush.
They did it safely. The probably had a good idea the guy was down.
Why rush it?
32 flights of stairs? yep.
The SWAT team climbed the stairs all the way up. That took some time.
The shooting lasted about ten minutes from what I’ve read. As long as the shooting stopped, they knew he wasn’t going anywhere, what’s the rush.
They did it safely. The probably had a good idea the guy was down.
Why rush it?
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Exactly.
Police froze in fear while 54 minutes went by.
I agree with you. And, as I have said many times police must tighten up hiring and emulate the Navy Seals at least to some minimal degree. The “Seals” test candidates for fear from day one. They make them jump out of planes in the dark, swim under ships in a harbor with only a few feet to spare, tie them up and throw them in swimming pools, put them in live fire rooms, and on and on. This is because the Seals recognize that all human beings have a “fear point”. Those that have a fear point that is too low, can’t be seals.
Most Police Departments hire anybody that can pass an IQ test. This is going to happen again and again. Cops can’t wait for SWAT without hundreds of innocents paying a very dear price.
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