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California Could Start Jailing People Who Don’t Use Transgender Pronouns
The Daily Caller ^ | August 25, 2017 | Anders Hagstrom

Posted on 08/27/2017 4:36:32 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

A bill that passed the California state senate and is now moving through the Assembly could threaten jail time for anyone who refuses to use a transgender person’s preferred pronoun.

The law is currently limited in its effects to nursing homes and intermediate-care facilities, but if passed, those who “willfully and repeatedly” refuse “to use a transgender resident’s preferred name or pronouns” could be slapped with a $1,000 fine and up to one year in prison, according to the California Heath and Safety code. The state senate passed the bill 26-12 at the end of May. Since then, the Assembly Judiciary committee recommended the bill unanimously and the General Assembly held its first hearing on the legislation Wednesday.

“How can you believe in free speech, but think the government can compel people to use certain pronouns when talking to others?” Greg Burt of the California Family Council testified in July. “This is not tolerance. This is not love. This is not mutual respect. True tolerance tolerates people with different views. We need to treat each other with respect, but respect is a two-way street. It is not respectful to threaten people with punishment for having sincerely held beliefs that differ from your own.”

Titled the “Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender Long-Term Care Facility Residents Bill of Rights,” the legislation also requires nursing homes and care facilities to allow residents to use the bathroom of their choice, regardless of biological sex. The bill’s author, state Sen. Scott Weiner, argues that religious views don’t hold weight in public areas.

“Everyone is entitled to their religious view,” Weiner said. “But when you enter the public space, when you are running an institution, you are in a workplace, you are in a civil setting, and you have to follow the law.”

Experts argue it is “pretty unlikely that, if this law is enacted, such prohibitions would be limited just to this [nursing home] scenario,” UCLA First Amendment scholar Eugene Volokh told National Review. Volokh speculates that lawmakers chose to apply the bill to nursing homes not because there is an overabundance of transgender seniors in the state, but because the demographic group is likely to garner sympathy.

The bill is one of several pieces of gender discrimination legislation moving through California’s Congress this summer. The body is also considering mandatory transgender training programs for companies that have more than 50 employees, CBS Sacramento reported.

While that legislation doesn’t punish those who refuse to use gender identity pronouns, it does affirm the right to transgender people to be called what they wish.

Both bills await decision in the Assembly.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: bluestates; california; californication; democrats; freedomofspeech; homosexualagenda; language; liberalfascism; linguisticgymnastics; orwell; pinkswastikas; speechcodes; transgenders
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The people initiating this are not crazy, we are for putting up with this INSANITY!!!!


21 posted on 08/27/2017 5:03:26 PM PDT by FES0844 (G)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
affirm the right to transgender people to be called what they wish

?? A 'right' to compel others to lie in order to validate delusion.

Sounds like a recipe for an ordered, peaceful society.

22 posted on 08/27/2017 5:05:20 PM PDT by Ezekiel (All who mourn(ed!) the destruction of America merit the celebration of her rebirth.)
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To: a fool in paradise

“Wouldn’t pass the Supreme Court. Homofascists can GTH.”

They don’t care. The blue states are in open rebellion anyways...Who’s going to enforce a SCROTUS ruling?


23 posted on 08/27/2017 5:07:17 PM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Obama voters killed America. Treat them accordingly.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How about locking up all the writers who called Bruce Jenner a “he” in second references over the decades of HIS celebrity??


24 posted on 08/27/2017 5:07:27 PM PDT by PaleoBob
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To: All

Are xe kidding xe?


25 posted on 08/27/2017 5:08:07 PM PDT by Peter ODonnell (The president is a good man -- that's why they are out to get him -- where have we seen this before?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s hard enough to get decent care in nursing homes, partly because facilities are understaffed, even though caregiver wages are low. What does California think is going to happen to eldercare if they start fining or jailing CNAs for referring to a man as “him”?


26 posted on 08/27/2017 5:08:29 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("Defensive weapons are not 'provocative' unless you're an aggressor." ~Gen. Mattis)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think NYC already does that.


27 posted on 08/27/2017 5:09:39 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: JohnBrowdie; Gay State Conservative

I don’t think this would even pass the 9th circus.


28 posted on 08/27/2017 5:13:45 PM PDT by BBell (calm down and eat your sandwiches)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How about we make the trannies wear a shirt with a number on it so we can “look up” what gender they are?


29 posted on 08/27/2017 5:19:04 PM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (If GOP won House, Senate and Presidency...why are the Democrats still in charge?)
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To: BBell

Does F-ing Queer count?


30 posted on 08/27/2017 5:19:49 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west))
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To: BBell

Does F-ing Queer count?


31 posted on 08/27/2017 5:22:53 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
threaten jail time for anyone who refuses to use a transgender person’s preferred pronoun . . . currently limited in its effects to nursing homes and intermediate-care facilities . . .

Maybe I'm just chicken, but I'd be afraid to threaten the person responsible for my care with jail time. Or maybe I'm just a decent person, not a thug, and I'd be even more embarrassed to threaten jail than I would be over not being sure whether I'm male or female.

32 posted on 08/27/2017 5:28:38 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All
The referenced bill would be a free speech-related violation of Section 1 of the 14th Amendment (14A) imo.
”14th Amendment, Section 1: All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States [emphasis added]; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”

I wouldn’t be surprised if at least some members of the California legislature have never heard of Section 1.

Sadly, consider that even though 14A gives Congress the power to protect citizens from abridgment of their constitutionally enumerated rights by the states, it remains that the current corrupt Congress is left over from the lawless Obama Administration and has a track record for wrongly remaining silent while misguided, pro-LGBT activist states abridge rights like 1st Amendment protect religious expression and free speech.

So patriots need elect new faces to Congress who will defend the Constitution and protect personal rights.

Drain the swamp sewer! Drain the sewer!

Remember in November 2018 !

Since corrupt Congress is the biggest part of the sewer (imo) that Trump wants to drain, it is actually up to patriots to drain the sewer in the 2018 elections, patriots supporting Trump by electing as many new members of Congress as they can who will support Trump.

In the meanwhile, patriots need to make sure that there are plenty of Trump-supporting candidates on the primary ballots.

Patriots need to qualify candidates by asking them why the Founding States made the Constitution’s Section 8 of Article I; to limit (cripple) the federal government’s powers.

Patriots also need to make sure that candidates are knowledgeable of the Supreme Court's clarifications of the federal government’s limited powers listed here.

Again, unlike incumbent members of Congress who wrongly remained silent while misguided state officials abridged the constitutionally enumerated rights of citizens during the lawless Obama Administration, patriots need to make sure that candidates on the 2018 primary ballots commit to the following.

Candidates need to commit to making and enforcing 14A-related laws to prosecute misguided state officials who use state powers to abridge constitutionally enumerated protections, 1st Amendment-protected religious expression and free speech for example, such actions prohibited by Section 1 of the 14th Amendment shown above.

Again, drain the sewer! Drain the sewer!

33 posted on 08/27/2017 5:37:41 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Too much pot.

My heart aches for my adopted state ( born and raised in the Chicago suburbs, right next to O’Hare; lived in CO for over ten years).


34 posted on 08/27/2017 5:54:30 PM PDT by proud American in Canada (President Trump is bearing the ''slings and arrows," as he said he would. God Bless him and the US)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

37 posted on 08/27/2017 5:59:25 PM PDT by BwanaNdege ("The church ... is not the master or the servant of the state, but the conscience" - Luther)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Don’t use pronouns, just use adverbs and adjectives like pendejo! From the border with Mexico to Oregon most Californians know what a pendejo is.


38 posted on 08/27/2017 6:06:00 PM PDT by Mat_Helm
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Law should be thrown out.

Regular people do not have this power. Toss it.


39 posted on 08/27/2017 6:06:54 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Mat_Helm

I made the mistake of saying “Viva La Raza!” to one of my little elementary school Mexican classmates in Chino, California. He almost knocked me out.


40 posted on 08/27/2017 6:08:28 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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