U.S. Surveillance State Leads to Gun Arrests in Australia

Gun Watch ^ | 11 June, 2017 | Dean Weingarten

[marktwain]

Australia has no Second Amendment, no Fourth Amendment, no Fifth Amendment, no First Amendment.  There is strong tradition and law that searches shall require warrants, and that people will not be forced to testify against themselves.

There are only a few rights actually protected by the Australian Constitution, and they are weakly protected.

In the following story, the information that lead to the searches and arrests came from the United States.  It wasn't about people purchasing anything illegal. It was about solvent traps. From smh.com.au:

More than 80 illegally imported guns have been seized during raids across the country after a tip-off from US authorities.

The Australian Border Force seized the black market guns, as well as 43 firearm silencers and 37 kilograms of gunpowder, after raiding more than a dozen properties.

(snip)

After receiving information from US authorities, Border Force investigators identified a large number of Australian customers buying "solvent trap" cleaning kits from a US-based website.

Items in the cleaning kits can be easily converted in sound suppressors, or silencers.

Some government agency in the United States is monitoring people who purchase solvent traps.  Very likely, they are monitoring people who visit solvent trap web sites.

The U.S. agency stored this information, and sent a list of people from Australia who a purchased solvent traps, to Australian authorities. The Australian Border Force then used the information to identify at least a dozen Australian homes to be raided.

Most Australians did not turn in all their guns during the infamous and mandatory Australian gun "buy backs" of 1996 and 2003.  The estimates are that 80% of guns that were made illegal were not registered or turned in. The article says that more than 80 illegally imported guns were seized. But the imprecision of such terms in the media is notorious.

Under Australian gun law, the air pistol in the upper left of the picture is treated the same as a real firearm.  The laser training gun in the upper left may be treated as an illegal firearm, it depends on the Australian state.  In NSW, computer code to print out a toy gun that looks real, is considered the same as a real gun.

It is possible that the Australian Border Force raided 12 homes and found 80 illegally imported guns. It seems more likely the interchangeable use of "black market" and "illegally imported" means that many or most of the guns seized were simply "not registered", which is a serious offense in Australia, after the extreme restrictions on gun ownership were passed in 1996.

Consider that U.S. authorities are monitoring and recording the proceedings at solvent trap websites.  Solvent traps are not illegal. Solvent traps do not require a license to purchase or own.

People have told me they do not join the NRA or a local Second Amendment activist group because "They do not want to be on a list."

Do you go to gun related sites on the Internet? Read gun related stories on Establishment media? Purchase ammo or gun accessories with a credit card? Buy a hunting license?  You are already effectively on a list.  All of that data is already collected and stored. If laws are passed to "deal" with gun owners, government officials can cross index and create such lists in a matter of minutes.

The real war is ongoing right now. It is the war to prevent such laws from being passed, and having a Supreme Court that will enforce Constitutional rights, especially Second Amendment rights.  Americans have lost the battle for privacy.  If Americans want it back, they will have to fight for it.


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[naturalman1975]

This honestly doesn't have much to do with Australian gun laws from what I'm reading. It's a smuggling issue - the guns were illegally imported. Judging by the photo and the brief description of the weapons in the article, they could have been imported legally. So smuggling issue, not a gun law issue as such.

The silencers, I'm not sure about - I've never wanted to own a silencer so I've never really paid much attention to the laws on those. I know they've been relaxed recently in at least parts of the country, but it's possible the ones seized in these raids may still be restricted under the gun laws.

[Big Red Badger]

List the Lists!
In Alphabetical order,,,

[lavaroise]

The FBI was present during the Garland attack and they did nothing to greet the terrorists going there. Suspicion is that the FBI was surveilling Pamella Geller’s event on orders of outfits like SPLC, Obama’s Muslim Brotherhood or Mueller’s old guard and to do nothing of the terrorists going there.

Bottom line is they have the datas on this sht and they never stop it.

[marktwain]

The Garland attack certainly needs to be investigated more.

So much corruption, so little time.