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Gun Myth: Cutting the Hangman's Rope with a Bullet
Am Shooting Journal ^ | 1/27/2017 | J Hines

Posted on 01/27/2017 6:49:02 AM PST by w1n1

Remember watching the old western movies that has the good guy cutting a rope with a gun, resulting in saving an innocent bystander and the day? Can the good guys really do that? Well, Jerry Miculek Youtuber set out for this task to see if its a myth or facts.

In the video Jerry talks about using the pistol, rifle and the rope to mimic the time frame from these western movies, here’s what he used:

-Used Sisal 3/4 inch rope as this was the norm back in the old western days. -This rope is placed on a manniquin with 200 pound of weight at the bottom to maintain tension. -Colt single action .45 pistol. Fired at the rope and did not cut the rope. -Bring in a bigger gun, 74 Shadow Sharps 4570 rifle which shoots a 500 grain round nose (smokeless load).

The Results
-With the .45 pistol, it only scratched the rope and did not cut it. -With the Shadows rifle 500 grain no problem cutting the rope in half and saving the manniquin. As an extra bonus Jerry decides to pull out a .50 Cal BMG to represent the present day hombre and proceeds to cut the rope in half. However, the shot was a little off to the side and there was not enough tension on the rope. Ending story mannequin was laid to rest. You still gotta see this gun myth in action here.


TOPICS: Hobbies; Outdoors; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: 50calbmg; banglist; colt45; shadowsharps4570
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To: Larry Lucido
Shooting out the leads from an electric chair doesn’t work either.

Nor does shooting at the E-stop on an Unstoppable locomotive. I thought they should have shot the fuel tanks instead.

21 posted on 01/27/2017 8:17:59 AM PST by pa_dweller (It's going to be a long sixteen years for some 'folks'.)
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To: w1n1

Better to just shoot the hangman and then cut the rope with a knife.


22 posted on 01/27/2017 8:26:48 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Ah, there was a trick to the red dot cards though. If you try to cover the dot with holes it will never work, but if you shoot a circle of holes around the red dot, then you can win it.


23 posted on 01/27/2017 8:28:37 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: w1n1
19th Century warships did have a special way to cut enemy sail riggings. Two cannonballs were welded together by a length of chain, then fired out a single cannon. Called chain-shot. Uneven in momentum, the two balls would orbit each other, catch a bunch of rigging, then either split it, or tear it out of its fixtures.

In modern times, the effect is replicated in shotguns with the use of bolo shells, a pair of slugs connected by a strong wire. They are banned in several jurisdictions.

This suggests that if you want to split a rope, it might be done, but with a shotgun, not a rifle or pistol.


24 posted on 01/27/2017 8:57:10 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Friday, January 20, 2017. Reparations end.)
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To: w1n1

Un busted the myth, he cut the rope with a 45 70.


25 posted on 01/27/2017 8:58:35 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: w1n1

it absoluitely can be done: with a .22 no less

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lMa5AwmfLU


26 posted on 01/27/2017 9:10:05 AM PST by Bob434
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To: w1n1

hmmm this .gif shows same deal but the rope snapping in half

http://imgur.com/gallery/09ZiyD1


27 posted on 01/27/2017 9:14:30 AM PST by Bob434
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To: w1n1

Two more Hollywood myths:

#1: The robber puts the strong box on the ground by his feet. Shoots the lock and it snaps open. WRONG! Many guns of that era used 100% pure SOFT lead. The projectile would splatter with fragments flying everywhere after hitting the lock, including the robber’s leg. The lock would most likely be damaged to the point of jamming up the internal works, thereby never opening again.

Even if the projectile were made of a harder alloy, the lock would likely still be damaged to the point of never opening & the projectile would ricochet.

#2: Two prisoners shackled together shoot the chain in two. Similar results as above.

I have a collection of pistols and rifles of that general era. For example, shooting a .44 cal pistol at a 1/4” steel plate does cause the round to splatter. It may leave a dent though, depending on the charge & range. A .58 cal leaves a huge dent, but still splatters.


28 posted on 01/27/2017 9:16:34 AM PST by redfreedom
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To: w1n1

Fun


29 posted on 01/27/2017 9:20:05 AM PST by ChildOfThe60s ("If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there")
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To: w1n1

In a range hanging, I guess it was typical to just hang on by the neck till he slowly strangled to death, but the perpetrator struggling would move the rope around making it a quite difficult feat of shooting. Execution hanging I do believe the goal was to drop the perpetrator quickly to the end of the rope and snapping the neck or in some cases of miscalculated drop distance vs the perpetrator’s weight decapitating the perp entirely. I the latter method shooting the rope would have to be done before the drop to save the perp, however in this case the rope is loose rather than taunt and would not have the weight factor to help separate the rope on bullet impact. The whole thing seems quite improbable in real vs static testing.


30 posted on 01/27/2017 9:28:28 AM PST by thegrump (It is who we are. It is what we do. Live for nothing or die for something ! (Rambo))
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To: w1n1

Total nonsense.....Gene Autry, Roy Rogers or Hopalong Cassidy would have done it with a six-shooter....from horseback, while moving!!!


31 posted on 01/27/2017 10:19:39 AM PST by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVER ALL)
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To: terycarl
"Total nonsense.....Gene Autry, Roy Rogers or Hopalong Cassidy would have done it with a six-shooter....from horseback, while moving!!!"

...Over the shoulder, at 500 yards!!

32 posted on 01/27/2017 10:22:39 AM PST by BlueLancer ("If the present tries to sit in judgment on the past, it will lose the future." Winston Churchill)
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To: w1n1

Three things.

First, if the hanging is done correctly, by the time there is weight on the rope so you can shoot through it, it’s too late, the neck will snap immediately.

Second, In the movie “Quick and the Dead”, the protagonist as a young girl is handed a gun by the bad guy and told she can save her father by shooting through the hanging rope. She misses and shoots him in the head. Now that’s something that would hard to live with, I imagine.

Third, I would think it better to shoot the rope where it is wrapped around the post or limb, so it has a backing. That should work before the weight is applied. And the splintering wood might actually help with cutting the rope.


33 posted on 01/27/2017 11:15:25 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: BlueLancer
..Over the shoulder, at 500 yards!!

Now, now....you're exaggerating !!!

34 posted on 01/27/2017 5:40:08 PM PST by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVER ALL)
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To: w1n1
Jerry Miculek Youtuber

Youtuber?

Does this writer have any idea who Jerry Miculek is?

35 posted on 01/27/2017 8:50:51 PM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Windflier
Youtuber?

Does this writer have any idea who Jerry Miculek is?

LOL. I think that would be no, no he does not.

36 posted on 01/28/2017 12:41:34 AM PST by Envisioning (Trump is imposing the people's will on it's government......as it should be.)
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To: Boogieman

that is the trick. I did that once at a carnival in front of a bunch of Spanish gang bangers and left their mouths agape.Won a big stuffed dog.


37 posted on 01/28/2017 2:47:08 AM PST by shoff (Vote Democrat it beats thinking!)
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