CALIFORNIA: What Are We Going To Do With California?

Canada Free Press ^ | 12/19/16 | Greg Penglis

[WMarshal]

Yeah, we are full of talk but just make sure we don't have to visit Virginia again you secessionist twit:

[central_va]

Thinking about taking up arms against your fellow citizen gets your rocks off does it? I don’t see it happening. To many of us in the other 49 WANT CA TO SECEDE.

[WMarshal]

You are throwing ridiculous hypotheticals out there. A sign of a weak argument. Calm down. Nobody is going to die for a failed union cause. If Ca. votes to secede ain’t a damn thing you are going to do about it.

So you say but California is not a nation, is not set up as a nation, and is very dependent on America. Let me ask you, you roll-over, yellow-bellied, secessionist, what would you do to stop me?

[central_va]

Each state is set up exactly like a nation. It took the Southern states 4 weeks to secede and set of a Federal government. In the era of the telegraph and horse and buggy too.

[WMarshal]

California needs an intervention.

With a boot to the face and every illegal booted back to Mexico after we take Baja California and northwest Sonora in payment for all of the trouble Mexico has cost us.

[WMarshal]

4 weeks that California will not get in the age of instant communication and airpower. They will be blockaded and the major metropolitan areas will be cordoned off in a week. No water, power, or telecommunication.

You should change your FR handle to secessionist_traitor or soros_buttboy.

[central_va]

Come on? Do you realize the political sh!t storm an invasion of CA would cause? Do you know how big an Army it takes to occupy a country the size of CA? I would say 50 divisions.

A Lincolnesque attack on CA would be a big mistake. I think even you are smart enough to realize that.

[Forward the Light Brigade]

Answer is easy. Cut off the federal money for “Sanctuary Cities” “Sanctuary Counties” and even the state. Let them wither in their socialist paradise—let them tax the rich into poverty to feed the millions from south of the border. The Trump should help re-start the Republican Party in the Golden State. The Uniparty State needs to end.

[Flying Circus]

Yours is an incredibly militant position that I do not believe would be universal. If California seeks peaceful separation I and many others will be willing to seriously consider it. I lived in the SF Bay Area for 12 years and enjoyed much of my time there and have fond memories and good friends there, but taking away California would abruptly take away much of the leftward impetus on the U.S. and force the Democrats to radically reinvent themselves or become completely irrelevant on a national level.

[GingisK]

It the only safe thing to do.

[Freedom_Is_Not_Free]

I think many if not most Americans would vote to allow California to secede. All republicans and conservatives would, to remove the 55 automatic Democrat electoral votes from America. The Democrats would nopt wipn another national election.

The chaos types just want any change for change sake, so they woud voe for it. So would all the hollywood sluts who said they want to leave America. They could and without ever leaving California.

I would vote for it!

[norton]

If California seceded by itself it'd be part of Mexico before the next election cycle.

Three states make sense, and avoids the issue of secession (hesitantly, I have to agree that secession is out of the question). It would add one liberal state and one conservative state (pending ongoing leftification of the north west).

I only have two concerns;
1 - would the split have any provision for exchanging "hostage" citizens between Jefferson and the Californias? (I'm not real happy here as it is). And,
2- Would Jefferson have adequate sea port facilities?

The author must be from San Francisco, he seems blind to huge liberal influence of the Silicone Valley - part of his benighted northern CA segment.
So Cal has it's proximity to mexico while today's central California is overrun with technical/academic/urban liberal elitists, plus the home grown druggies 'Frisco is famous for.

A final benefit to the three state option is that the US would only have to sell off a third of the territory when mexico made their move; I'd hold out for enough reparations to finance a well armed border militia for ten or twenty years.

[x]

+1

[x]

It’s not all of California; it’s a few enclaves of progressivism and foreign nationals dominance.

That's true. But the culture of the state has really changed -- at least in the metropolitan areas. Someone like Reagan would never get elected there and people who planned to vote for someone like Reagan (or for Trump) would tend to keep quiet about it.

[A CA Guy]

Greatly restrict welfare and liberalism dies.

[captain_dave]

It’s bankrupt. Break it up into several smaller states and isolate the hard left even more.

[ScottinVA]

Perhaps someday, the more conservative North State will separate from Mexifornia.

[ScottinVA]

1 - would the split have any provision for exchanging “hostage” citizens between Jefferson and the Californias? (I’m not real happy here as it is). And,
2- Would Jefferson have adequate sea port facilities?

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1. That one would have to be worked out; hard to say.
2. Yes, the new state, which reaches to the coast, would have adequate coastline. Adequate seaports would have to be constructed.