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Panel to Trump: Train 100,000 hackers
KRCR-TV ^ | December 2, 2016 | Jose Pagliery, CNN

Posted on 12/02/2016 7:00:07 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

The incoming Trump administration is being advised to train 100,000 hackers.

The new president should also make an effort to develop international norms for hacking, essentially drawing red lines to avoid cyber warfare or even armed conflict.

President Obama's special Commission on Enhancing National Cybersecurity released its long-awaited report Friday night.

In it, the panel outlines a challenging to-do list that makes clear cybersecurity is a top national priority.

Computer hacking is now commonplace and more dangerous than ever....

(Excerpt) Read more at krcrtv.com ...


TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Government
KEYWORDS: hackers; hacking; internet; trump
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1 posted on 12/02/2016 7:00:07 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think that is probably a wise thing to do. Just surprised that we do not already have them. This has been a problem for a long time now.


2 posted on 12/02/2016 7:07:24 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Excellent idea. Maybe then we can find Obama’s birth certificate and Hillary’s emails about yoga and Chelsea’s wedding.


3 posted on 12/02/2016 7:07:38 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Ask Jill Stain. She claimed those voting machines were “hacked”..


4 posted on 12/02/2016 7:08:43 PM PST by max americana (For the 9th time FIRED LIBERALS from our company at this election, and every election since 2008)
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To: Robert DeLong

We have some (see Edward Snowden) but not nearly enough.


5 posted on 12/02/2016 7:08:48 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hire some of the kids at Redditt and 4chan. They deserve a big thank you. Of course that might be like herding cats.


6 posted on 12/02/2016 7:12:03 PM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: max americana

Yeah, and that’s a pretty good trick since none of them are connected to the internet


7 posted on 12/02/2016 7:14:16 PM PST by bigbob (We have better coverage than Verizon - Can You Hear Us Now?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes, 2000 hackers per state. That’s a fine idea. Cant wait to see what they fill their time with.


8 posted on 12/02/2016 7:16:26 PM PST by DesertRhino (November 8, America's Brexit!!!)
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To: bigbob

To a dummy Dem, a Starbucks coffee is connected to the internet if they think it will get Hitlery to the WH.


9 posted on 12/02/2016 7:19:56 PM PST by max americana (For the 9th time FIRED LIBERALS from our company at this election, and every election since 2008)
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To: DesertRhino

Warcraft?


10 posted on 12/02/2016 7:20:22 PM PST by max americana (For the 9th time FIRED LIBERALS from our company at this election, and every election since 2008)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Understand that hacking is not something that you can go to week long training session. It is a WIDE set of skills that covers a very wide set of conditions. Most people who “qualify” as hackers are at the very least, qualified as system administrators. That means a BEGINNING salary range of $35 to $60 thousand. Mid range or “certified” hackers can easily pull $80 to $100 thousand per year. Top end certified developers and network engineers make in the $150 thousand salary range. At the high end, an independent contractor that is certified and has several years of experience and has a clearance, can charge $250 PER HOUR.

To be an intelligence grade operation - i.e. no one knows that you are there and you leave no trace, you are going to need a TEAM - network, programmer, database admin, encryption, etc. The cost of such a team is beyond what most companies can afford.

Now add to the cost the fact that such skilled individuals should have at a minimum a level 2 security clearance (Secret) OR HIGHER. Those background investigations will need to be paid for as well.

I am not saying that it cant be done, but it is not like you can say “Go out and train 100,000 cab drivers to be truckers”. It is closer to say that you need to send 100,000 to get their associates degree, and of those, 30,000 need to go on to get a bachelors and about 5,000 need to go further and get their masters .... in hacking.


11 posted on 12/02/2016 7:23:31 PM PST by taxcontrol
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

bookamrk


12 posted on 12/02/2016 7:26:39 PM PST by GOP Poet
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To: taxcontrol

I took a course on using the Internet before most anyone had ever heard of it and I still don’t know what I’m doing.


13 posted on 12/02/2016 7:26:59 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There talking whitehat hacking /pen testing...im workiny on my CPH


14 posted on 12/02/2016 7:31:07 PM PST by tophat9000 (Tophat9000)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The really effective hackers are a unique breed:

It is possible that just PAYING them would turn them off, might actually make them STOP what they do for free.

Bureacrats see people as interchangeable units, but hackers...?

They are INCREDIBLY fickle, suspicious and hostile to authority, hostile to actions undertaken in a group that is PHYSICALLY together under the same roof.

This is absolutely a proposal loved by a BUREAUCRAT.

The need for cyber is always becoming more and more clear, but the old formulas for building that capability will absolutely not work.


15 posted on 12/02/2016 7:36:09 PM PST by gaijin
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I joined the Navy in 1967. One of the events everyone goes thru (still do no doubt) is a day of tests. As a result of those tests, I went to Language School for a year. I’m sure the military is already training its own hackers and has been for a good while.


16 posted on 12/02/2016 7:39:22 PM PST by Rembrandt (Part of the 51% who pay Federal taxes)
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To: tophat9000

I’m going the autodidact route in cyber warfare .... can’t wait for Trumps call.

http://azcwr.org


17 posted on 12/02/2016 8:07:23 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Can’t he just get the Russian hackers who stole the election for him?


18 posted on 12/02/2016 9:01:57 PM PST by gubamyster
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To: gaijin

I totally agree with you there. The real effective ones do it for fun and because it is a challenge, not because they are told to.


19 posted on 12/02/2016 9:09:11 PM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

While he may have been capable of being a hacker, he didn’t have to hack in, he already had full access. But I agree, we probably do have some, just not nearly enough.


20 posted on 12/03/2016 4:21:53 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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