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To: rockrr
And they deliberately termed it a perpetual union, not a loose confederation of convenience.

You cannot invoke a right given by God to justify your own independence, and then claim it is constrained by man.

347 posted on 11/29/2016 9:25:02 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp
You cannot invoke a right given by God to justify your own independence, and then claim it is constrained by man.

Then how can you constrain it by placing burdens on California before allowing them to leave?

348 posted on 11/29/2016 9:47:03 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: DiogenesLamp; rockrr; DoodleDawg
DiogenesLamp to rockrr: "You cannot invoke a right given by God to justify your own independence, and then claim it is constrained by man."

No Founder -- none -- ever claimed an unrestricted "right of secession" at pleasure.
All considered as legitimate disunion by mutual consent, or from necessity caused by oppression.
But secession "at pleasure" was simply treason, for which they had no tolerance.

383 posted on 12/03/2016 10:11:12 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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