Posted on 08/18/2016 11:30:41 AM PDT by PROCON
In 2008 and 2012 the firearms industry saw a surge in both gun and ammo sales thanks to the presidential election, and while this cycle is no different for gun sales in fact, this maybe a record year ammo is a different story.
Mark DeYoung, chief executive officer of Vista Outdoor, a conglomerate of shooting and outdoor brands said consumers just arent buying up ammunition like they had in those years. As youll recall, we were out of stock, he said during a conference call with investors last week.
He thinks consumers built up a vast inventory at home and are still feeding off of it, so the demand isnt as high. I personally believe that a lot of consumers over-stocked pulled that ammo as quick as they could off those retail shelves and took it home and put it in their own basement, he said.
Touching on gun sales, he said consumers are mostly buying handguns and AR rifles, which none of Vistas brands manufacture. However, production of ammo for those types of firearms 9mm and .223 is at capacity. If I had more 9mm, I could sell it. If I had more 5.56 and .223, I could sell it, he said.
For second quarter earnings, Vista reported $342.8 million in sales from the shooting sports, an increase of $10 million from the year before. Vistas brands falling in that category include gun maker Savage Arms and several ammo makers like Federal Premium, CCI, Blazer, Speer, and American Eagle.
Compared to gun sales, the federal background check system, the industrys key indicator for sales, showed an increase of 15 percent for total checks in the past four months. According to figures published by the National Instant Criminal Background Check System, six months into 2016 has netted 32 percent, or 3.4 million, more checks than 2015 and continuing a pace for the biggest year on record.
Competitor Winchester Ammunition, owned by chemical giant Olin Corp., reported last month an overall decrease in ammo sales compared to last year. For the quarter ending June 30, the company raked in $181 million in sales, down by $13.2 million from 2015 and $8.2 million six month into the year.
With sales down, Olins management thinks ammo demand this year will follow seasonal trends and sales will bounce back in hunting and holiday shopping seasons.
DeYoung admitted politics has affected consumers decision to buy handguns and AR-pattern rifles. Certainly the candidates who are on the stump are pounding the stump on Second Amendment issues, he said and referenced Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clintons sweeping gun control proposals. He added it only makes sense that consumers also buy ammo for those firearms.
Mike Fifer, CEO of Sturm, Ruger & Company, which entered the ammo market last year, also dismissed describing sales this year as surging, but was hesitant to credit any increase directly to anti-gun politics. Yet, he praised his companys fundraising efforts for the National Rifle Association and repeated elements of the organizations stump speech characterizing Clinton as wanting to abolish the Second Amendment.
Ruger reported a 19 percent increase in sales for its second quarter, putting sales at $140.1 million and $341.1 million six months into the year. Gun sales made up 99 percent of all Rugers sales that quarter.
The ammo stays good for a very long time.
Not to worry. You'll never catch me anywhere near The People's Democratic Republic of Massachusetts.
When you buy a gun you buy all the ammunition you think you’ll need
$48 for 500 rounds. Holy smokes. I miss the good ol’ days before my rifle endedup at the bottom of a lake. $5 a 550 box pre Obama. 9mm on sale 2 boxes for $7. It’s a good thing Ammo isn’t in the official inflation calculations.
Nope. Most of my FR work is iPad or PC based. The reloading bench laptop comes in handy doing research on new load “recipes.”
I eat ptemisr for lunch. ;)
cheaperthandirt.com has 22LR/250rds for $19.79, so if you shop around you can find a deal.
And, of course, if you buy in larger quantities, the shipping is waived or lessens the overall price.
I suppose the panic buyers have a large stash to sit on, but .22 ammo is still scarce and expensive. The ammo makers made out like bandits.
Prices are not down yet. Drop the price a little and see what happens.
Yep.
If I could find it at a reasonable price, I’d buy at least 10,000 rounds of .22LR right now.
As it is, as long as I use cast projectiles, I can shoot any of my centerfire stuff cheaper than rimfire, and don’t have to conserve it for TEOTWAWKI.
Ammo sales are not up.
Yet......
I personally believe that a lot of consumers over-stocked pulled that ammo as quick as they could off those retail shelves and took it home and put it in their own basement, he said.
No such thing as too much ammo. No matter how high the pile.
Or if gov’t is buying production to starve us little people.
Yes, this article doesn't make sense to me.
There's plenty of ammo out there but not necessarily in the calibers people want.
The really good large distributors still have light-weight ball ammo, nothing wrong with that.
But if you are looking for heavier grain or, heaven forbid, match grade ammo, you either won't find it or you will pay a buck and a half a pop.
Ping
Luckygunner, freedommunitions, cheaperthandirt, ammoman. Just bought another 1k of 9mm fmj reloads for $200 including shipping. Works fine in my GLOCKs. Put 100 rds downrange today. 3x5 cards are quaking in fear tonight.
And ,,,
Can I whine about .22?
Where is the Mini-Mag?
Now you tell me!
Speaking of which, this weekend you care to show off that extra bit of the back 40 you mowed? Care to put it to good use & carry out more than we bring back?
Put smiles on Brent/Keith/Bob’s faces? Not to mention ours.
No alarm clock this weekend. I’ll hardly know WTF to do w/ myself. ;o)
I’m broke, so there’s that.
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