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What Will You Do When The Lights Go Out? The Inevitable Failure Of The US Grid
Oilprice.com ^ | 15-08-2016 | Juli

Posted on 08/15/2016 9:04:51 AM PDT by bananaman22

Delta Airlines recently experienced what it called a power outage in its home base of Atlanta, Georgia, causing all the company’s computers to go offline—all of them. This seemingly minor hiccup managed to singlehandedly ground all Delta planes for six hours, stranding passengers for even longer, as Delta scrambled to reshuffle passengers after the Monday debacle.

Where Delta blamed its catastrophic systems-wide computer failure vaguely on a loss of power, Georgia Power, their power provider, placed the ball squarely in Delta’s court, saying that “other Georgia Power customers were not affected”, and that they had staff on site to assist Delta.

Whether it was a true power outage, or an outage unique to Delta is fairly insignificant. The incident was a single company without power for six measly hours, yet it wreaked much havoc. Which brings to mind (or at least it should) what happens when the lights really go out—everywhere? And just how dependent is the U.S. on single-source power?

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: electricity; emp; grid; investment; jihadinamerica; outage; power; powergrid; preparedness
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To: Mr. Douglas

Where would you buy fuel for your 1960 tractor?


81 posted on 08/15/2016 11:54:12 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Go away, Satan! -- Fr.Jacques Hamel (R.I.P., martyr))
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To: Mr. Douglas
I can not imagine a “serious” company operating with power backup.

Do you mean WITHOUT power backup?

82 posted on 08/15/2016 11:59:36 AM PDT by JimRed (Is it 1776 yet? TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Build the Wall, NOW!)
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To: Bigg Red

Suck it out of my cars that don’t run, and my neighbors cars that don’t run. :)


83 posted on 08/15/2016 12:25:50 PM PDT by Mr. Douglas (Today is your life. What are you going to do with it?)
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To: JimRed

Yes. Yes I did. :)


84 posted on 08/15/2016 12:26:13 PM PDT by Mr. Douglas (Today is your life. What are you going to do with it?)
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To: bgill; 556x45
556x45 :" For my $ I think they got hacked and dont want to admit it."
bgill :"Bingo. They haven't been the only airline to have "problems" lately.
It's building up to a failure of massive proportions very soon..."

BINGO BONGO !
Practice run by hackers on how weak our transportation, electrical grid, generators water supply systems, waste treatment, retail merchants ..actually all our infrastructure .
Remember about 8 months ago when hackers, using a dedicated computer, could control a jeep via laptop radio control as a demo of automotive vulnerabilities ?
Remember when someone shot out the rural electrical substation transformers that serviced the California electronics R&D valley; the grid barely survived.
I repeat - I think it was a practice run at creating potential CHAOS - to determine recovery time, and access the amount of damage that can be done, anonymously.
These are practice runs at determining the US vulnerability


85 posted on 08/15/2016 1:16:19 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt ( British historian Arnold Toynbee - Civilisations die from suicide, not by murder.)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

I had never thought of that but I bet they have.

I suspect many of them spend most of their waking hours trying to figure out how to murder Christians and damage America or and Western nation.


86 posted on 08/15/2016 1:38:23 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: Mr. Douglas

:)


87 posted on 08/15/2016 1:52:40 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Go away, Satan! -- Fr.Jacques Hamel (R.I.P., martyr))
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To: Mr. K

Some of the pumping stations are electrically driven.


88 posted on 08/15/2016 2:53:24 PM PDT by Ozark Tom
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To: Bringbackthedraft

Forty-eight hours to establish a blockade—contain the pillagers assault for two weeks and then sort out the remainder.


89 posted on 08/15/2016 3:04:56 PM PDT by Ozark Tom
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To: 2nd Amendment

As one wouldn’t use infantry limited to bayonets on tanks—chose an appropriate option from the book.


90 posted on 08/15/2016 3:34:17 PM PDT by Ozark Tom
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To: MeganC

Unfortunately a mob of desperate people shed civilization as snakes shed their skin.


91 posted on 08/15/2016 3:38:26 PM PDT by Ozark Tom
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To: Secret Agent Man

PA system playing a recording of a generator running as decoy? as bait?


92 posted on 08/15/2016 3:53:43 PM PDT by Ozark Tom
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To: Ozark Tom

I like the idea, but not if it draws too many coordinating folks.


93 posted on 08/15/2016 4:14:01 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Ozark Tom

“Unfortunately a mob of desperate people shed civilization as snakes shed their skin.”

In addition to being prepared for a power outage we’re also prepared for mobs of desperate people and people who want to “help us” in an official capacity.

Honestly, the mobs don’t scare us as much as the latter.


94 posted on 08/15/2016 4:50:04 PM PDT by MeganC (JE SUIS CHARLES MARTEL!!!)
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To: MeganC

++++prepared for mobs of desperate people and people who want to “help us” in an official capacity++++

Oh yes, the “we’re from the gubbmint and we’re here to help” crowd.
Avery scary bunch.


95 posted on 08/15/2016 4:54:34 PM PDT by redcatcherb412
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To: bananaman22

I got me a generator installed - it’s when the natural gas mains go down that I’ll be in trouble....


96 posted on 08/15/2016 6:30:25 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Karl Spooner

..3300 amps of battery storage for 20 hours which means I can use the battery for a week and a half before I worry about it.
39KW?
____________________________________________________________

No, actually it is 3300Amps rated at 20 hours.

It is a 48Volt Battery so that works out to a little over one megawatt total in 20 hours. I will not likely use more than 25killowatt a day except in very hot weather, if the weather is hot there will be sunshine to charge my batteries at the rate of nearly 12KW per hour for over 6 hours in the summer.

I realize that I have more storage than I am ever likely to use but the life of a battery is in the number of deep discharges. Taking 15 or 20% out of a battery is nothing, it will last many more years than the rated life of 7-10 years at 2000 to 3000 full discharges.


97 posted on 08/15/2016 7:37:02 PM PDT by JAKraig (my religion is at least as good as yours)
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To: bananaman22

Delta went down with help. That is all.


98 posted on 08/15/2016 7:51:06 PM PDT by Solson (Trump 2016!)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

Don’t forget the Metcalf CA test attack.

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2014/02/the_metcalf_incident.html


99 posted on 08/15/2016 8:52:41 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee
Travis McGee :" Don’t forget the Metcalf CA test attack."

Exactly true, an while the Metcalf attack occurred in April 2013 , we didn't hear about it until February 2014.
Why didn't we hear security concerns ?
All that time the Feds kept the weakness of security of the electrical grid to themselves; this was but just one, well planned, physical attack at one rural substation.
What if there were multiple attacks, timed simultaneously, in a specific geographic region,
designed to crash the system where there is maximum draw, and attempt to take the entire system down.
Metcalf was a single physical attack that showed electrical vulnerability ; what if it was coordinated with a series of electronic hacking incidents as well .. /?
As we let larger numbers of foreign nationals with unknown agendas into the country, we increasingly lose the ability to defend areas of our utilities infrastructure
whether it be electrical, water, waste, communications, mass transportation ,or simple governmental administration.
Metcalf was a practice run to crash the Silicon Valley electrical system that proved that our infrastructure is vulnerable to attack and collapse.

100 posted on 08/16/2016 6:48:43 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt ( British historian Arnold Toynbee - Civilisations die from suicide, not by murder.)
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