Posted on 07/13/2016 5:46:09 AM PDT by marktwain
The home and small shop manufacture of ammunition is an interesting subject for those debating the potential for disarming the population. Guns are not very hard to make. They are routinely made in third world workshops and by first world hobbyists. Some of the simplest to make are some of those most detested by the opponents of armed self defense. Homemade submachine guns are commonly found in Brazil and Israel.
Many who oppose armed self defense have made the case that ammunition is the weak point in a black market or grey market economy. They assume that ammunition is difficult to make. But cartridge cases can be reused a hundred times or more, and are not terribly difficult to make. Projectiles have been made by the billions by hobbyists for hundreds of years. Gunpowder can be homemade. Hundreds of thousands of high school students have done so. But modern ammunition requires primers. It has long been thought that primers were the weak point in a homemade ammunition supply chain.
Some things that are well known turn out not to be true. That is the case with the supposed difficulty of recharging or reloading primers for cartridges. They are far easier to recharge than I had ever considered.
There have always been a few dedicated hobbyists who have recharged primers. Before the Internet, that information did not make it into the mainstream. During the Cold War, I knew of Soviet hunters that recharged their shotgun primers with the tips of strike anywhere matchheads.
That method is detailed in the Army manual on improvised munitions, TM 31-210. On my screen it appears on page 297. The method is slow and labor intensive. It takes several minutes to recharge a single primer.
The Tap-O-Cap is a tool that was made by Forster. It could make usable percussion caps from aluminium drink cans and cap gun roll caps. It is not commercially available at this time. They are occasionally available on ebay.
Kits have been sold to reprime and recharge .22 rimfire cartridges. I saw them in the 1980's. One became available again in 2015.
The common wisdom, put forward by experts in the field, was that recharging primers was much too risky. I believe they were wrong. The turning point was the great ammunition bubble brought about by the election of Barak Obama.
Nearly a hundred million additional firearms have been added to the U.S. private stock as people bought them while they were still legal to acquire. Perhaps a hundred billion rounds of ammunition were purchased and stockpiled. Reloading supplies, including primers, became scarce as demand skyrocketed along with prices.
A great many people wanted to shoot. A great many wanted to reload. On several forums on the Internet, sophisticated and knowlegable enthusiasts began to explore the possibility of recharging percussion caps and primers.
The results have been extraordinary. There is a thriving community of hobbyists on the Internet who communicate what works, what doesn't work, and how to obtain or make the necessary materials to make, reload, or recharge primers and percussion caps. The hard work of developing the procedures to do this in relative safety has been done. One of several long running discussions of recharging/reloading primers on the Internet is at castboolits.gunloads.com.
Safety precautions have to be followed. My estimate of the risk is about the same as the hobby of reloading cartridges. It appears less dangerous than scuba diving, sky diving, or horseback riding.
The materials are not hard to acquire. They can be made from common household chemicals. It is easier to purchase them directly. Because the amounts of priming compound necessary to recharge primers are tiny, small amounts of chemicals are sufficient for thousands of primers. One pound, 454 grams, is sufficient for between 14,000 and 23,000 primers. A small pistol primer takes about .3 grains of priming compound; a large pistol primer requires about .5 grains. There are 7,000 grains in a pound, or 15.4 grains in one gram.
There are Youtube videos on making percussion caps and recharging primers.
The best written and explained methods for recharging primers and percussion caps are in a course developed by W. Marshall Thompson, PhD. He devoted long hours of extensive experimentation to the subject. As a seasoned academic, he researched the published material before he created the course. He has several years of practical experience in doing what he explains. It shows. The work is wonderfully detailed and complete. It offers several methods for recharging primers and two variations, with less detail, for creating percussion caps.
The course starts by discussing the history of primers and the requirements for a successful primer. It discusses the basic legal issues. Then it goes into the details of how to recharge primers if you have the desire and/or the necessity of doing so.
In a forum, Marshall has acknowledged that recharging primers is not economic when commercial primers are readily available. That is not the point, he says. If the knowledge is available now, and people develop the skills now, it will be available when and where it is needed. It is extremely satisfying to create and/or reload your own primers from basic materials.
The four most practical methods for recharging primers are these.
First, the cap gun roll cap method. This is the easiest method, and works fairly well for pistol cartridges that use fast burning powder. The primers made with this method may not be energetic enough for reliable ignition of slow burning rifle powders. Marshall lists which cap gun caps are the best. He details the procedure of recharging the primer cups. He diagrams how to recharge the primers with the caps.
With practice, a couple of primers a minute can be produced. These primers are corrosive.
Marshall's son in law recently tested 50 9mm cartridges. The cartridges were loaded with cap gun roll cap primers three years ago. They all functioned as normal reloaded cartridges. There were no failures to fire or feed.
GONRA noted comments on hydraulic decapping.Fortunately, ammuntion is widely available at reasonable prices throughout most of the United States. Yes, the .22 bubble is an exception. It will end. In the meanwhile, a hundred billion rounds of ammunition have been purchased and stored in dens, bedroom closets, workshops and gun rooms all over the country. That ammunition will not be expended all at once.
This was pretty successful on a batch of 14.5x114 Soviet "brass"
(Chicom lacquered coated steel cases) years ago.
Got about 100 cases out of initial batch of <150 "fired cases".
(Some weren't fired, so didn't mess with 'em.)
Making the 9mm Berdan primers (2 grains Donnard's 1959 patent mix:
lead styphnate 37%, tetracene 3%, barium nitrate 30%, lead dioxide 5%,
PETN 5%, antimony sulfide 15%, zirconium 5%)
using cups formed on CH Swag-O-Matics with my own tooling was a Whole New Hobby......
Very good information to have one might not need it as it is easy to buy and store primers. But in other places in the world it could very well be relevant.
I am looking forward to directed energy hand weapons for the future battles against tyranny.
Has anyone ever successfully de-capped a Bredan primed case? I've tried it using a wooden dowel and by driving an unfired bullet into a shell casing full of water. I've ruined cases and shot water all over the place but have never managed to remove a primer. I Have tried this with 8mm Mauser, 7.35 Carcano and 7.62x39. No joy.
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I have a method I plan to use but have not tried it yet. It requires drilling a centered primer hole in the case base. My plan is to use a decapping rod with a drill bit inserted into the decapping pin holder and using it as a mandrel. The process will require not drilling through the used primer. Once the drill press is set up and the case is inserted into position it should be an easy job.
I have come across two methods that people say works. One is by Marshall, at a forum. He uses a file ground down to a small enough tip to tap out the primer in on of the berdan flash holes, then the other, back and forth, until the primer comes free, relatively undamaged. He says it works most of the time, and with practice take about 10 seconds.
The other is a device to hydrologically remove the primer by placing the case in the bottom of a pipe. There is an O ring around a hole in the bottom, which is large enough to allow the primer to pop out. The base of the cartridge seals the hole and the pipe filed with water. A large piston is put in place above the cartridge, the piston is hit with a sledge hammer, the primer dislodged without damage to the case or primer cup.
There is a Youtube video demonstration.
M4L primers
bookmarked, copied, downloaded
I recently saw roll caps for toy pistols in Tractor Supply. (smile) It was in the closeout section, thought it interesting since they did not appear to sell toys.
I reload. Have since the 1970’s. 2-3 years ago I bought a great new press and some extra dies & supplies. Have primers, brass, powder, bullets and molds for cast bullets for most of the calibers we shoot. Just in case.
No we will not have to go back to flintlocks. And no, the ComDems will not confiscate our guns. Screw em
I’ve seen the youtube demonstrations and of course it works every time. I’ve never been able to get it to work in practice. I’m looking for someone who has actually made it work. I have about 1000 rounds of spent Bredan 8x57 brass on hand.
I couldn’t find the video before I head to the office but there’s a great video of Taliban reloading ammo in a cave using rocks and all handmade tools.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_42/362609_Hydraulic_Decapper_for_Berdan__Home_Built_.html
Check this one out. It is not a video, and has detailed still photos of the apparatus made. Should work for your 8X57.
Not certain where you would get the berdan primers for those cases, but you could recharge them.
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Bump for reference. Thanks!
Handy reference.
WOW, thanks.
Bump for my records
I would suggest that this sort of information on primers and the information on gunpowder and homemade firearms be stored in paper rather than electronic form. If things get ugly, accessing self-defense information on the Internet could lead to lopsided encounters with socialist minions. A nice binder with relevant instructions is much safer.
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