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Why It's Time to Repeal the Second Amendment (Masks are dropping)
Rolling Stone ^ | June 13, 2016 | David S. Cohen

Posted on 06/14/2016 9:40:20 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

I teach the Constitution for a living. I revere the document when it is used to further social justice and make our country a more inclusive one. I admire the Founders for establishing a representative democracy that has survived for over two centuries.

But sometimes we just have to acknowledge that the Founders and the Constitution are wrong. This is one of those times. We need to say loud and clear: The Second Amendment must be repealed.

As much as we have a culture of reverence for the founding generation, it's important to understand that they got it wrong — and got it wrong often. Unfortunately, in many instances, they enshrined those faults in the Constitution. For instance, most people don't know it now, but under the original document, Mitt Romney would be serving as President Obama's vice president right now because he was the runner-up in the last presidential election. That part of the Constitution was fixed by the Twelfth Amendment, which set up the system we currently have of the president and vice president running for office together.

Much more profoundly, the Framers and the Constitution were wildly wrong on race. They enshrined slavery into the Constitution in multiple ways, including taking the extreme step of prohibiting the Constitution from being amended to stop the slave trade in the country's first 20 years. They also blatantly wrote racism into the Constitution by counting slaves as only 3/5 of a person for purposes of Congressional representation. It took a bloody civil war to fix these constitutional flaws (and then another 150 years, and counting, to try to fix the societal consequences of them).

There are others flaws that have been fixed (such as about voting and Presidential succession), and still other flaws that have not yet been fixed (such as about equal rights for women and land-based representation in the Senate), but the point is the same — there is absolutely nothing permanently sacrosanct about the Founders and the Constitution. They were deeply flawed people, it was and is a flawed document, and when we think about how to make our country a more perfect union, we must operate with those principles in mind.

In the face of yet another mass shooting, now is the time to acknowledge a profound but obvious truth – the Second Amendment is wrong for this country and needs to be jettisoned. We can do that through a Constitutional amendment. It's been done before (when the Twenty-First Amendment repealed prohibition in the Eighteenth), and it must be done now.

The Second Amendment needs to be repealed because it is outdated, a threat to liberty and a suicide pact. When the Second Amendment was adopted in 1791, there were no weapons remotely like the AR-15 assault rifle and many of the advances of modern weaponry were long from being invented or popularized.

Sure, the Founders knew that the world evolved and that technology changed, but the weapons of today that are easily accessible are vastly different than anything that existed in 1791. When the Second Amendment was written, the Founders didn't have to weigh the risks of one man killing 49 and injuring 53 all by himself. Now we do, and the risk-benefit analysis of 1791 is flatly irrelevant to the risk-benefit analysis of today.

Gun-rights advocates like to make this all about liberty, insisting that their freedom to bear arms is of utmost importance and that restricting their freedom would be a violation of basic rights.

But liberty is not a one way street. It also includes the liberty to enjoy a night out with friends, loving who you want to love, dancing how you want to dance, in a club that has historically provided a refuge from the hate and fear that surrounds you. It also includes the liberty to go to and send your kids to kindergarten and first grade so that they can begin to be infused with a love of learning. It includes the liberty to go to a movie, to your religious house of worship, to college, to work, to an abortion clinic, go to a hair salon, to a community center, to the supermarket, to go anywhere and feel that you are free to do to so without having to weigh the risk of being gunned down by someone wielding a weapon that can easily kill you and countless others.

The liberty of some to own guns cannot take precedence over the liberty of everyone to live their lives free from the risk of being easily murdered. It has for too long, and we must now say no more.

Finally, if we take the gun-rights lobby at their word, the Second Amendment is a suicide pact. As they say over and over, the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. In other words, please the gun manufacturers by arming even the vast majority of Americans who do not own a gun.

Just think of what would have happened in the Orlando night-club Saturday night if there had been many others armed. In a crowded, dark, loud dance club, after the shooter began firing, imagine if others took out their guns and started firing back. Yes, maybe they would have killed the shooter, but how would anyone else have known what exactly was going on? How would it not have devolved into mass confusion and fear followed by a large-scale shootout without anyone knowing who was the good guy with a gun, who was the bad guy with a gun, and who was just caught in the middle? The death toll could have been much higher if more people were armed.

The gun-rights lobby's mantra that more people need guns will lead to an obvious result — more people will be killed. We'd be walking down a road in which blood baths are a common occurrence, all because the Second Amendment allows them to be.

At this point, bickering about the niceties of textual interpretation, whether the history of the amendment supports this view or that, and how legislators can solve this problem within the confines of the constitution is useless drivel that will lead to more of the same. We need a mass movement of those who are fed up with the long-dead Founders' view of the world ruling current day politics. A mass movement of those who will stand up and say that our founding document was wrong and needs to be changed. A mass movement of those who will thumb their nose at the NRA, an organization that is nothing more than the political wing of the country's gun manufacturers, and say enough is enough.

The Second Amendment must be repealed, and it is the essence of American democracy to say so.


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To: 2ndDivisionVet; GraceG; stephenjohnbanker; Sarah Barracuda; LUV W; SkyDancer; MeganC; TADSLOS
The Second Amendment needs to be repealed because it is outdated, a threat to liberty and a suicide pact. When the Second Amendment was adopted in 1791, there were no weapons remotely like the AR-15 assault rifle and many of the advances of modern weaponry were long from being invented or popularized.

Ladies and Gentlemen, Boys and Girls of All Ages.

I present you, An Eight Shot Matchlock circa 1580.

From that Radical N.R.A. loving Website Wikipedia.

Not a Wheelock

Not a Flintlock

Not a Percussion

An 8 Shot Matchlock.

People have had repeating arms for a long long time.

81 posted on 06/14/2016 10:51:58 AM PDT by KC_Lion (Never Killary!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
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Oh, did we mention the BITTER LITTLE WEENIE in the White House?


82 posted on 06/14/2016 10:58:23 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (This entire "administration" has been a series of Reischstag Fires. We know how that turned out!)
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To: Scrambler Bob
At the time of the Founders people were certainly familiar with mass casualty events, and terrorism. As one example, consider Hanna Duston, from Haverhill, Massachusetts.

In 1697 Mrs. Duston was taken hostage during a terror raid where 27 people were killed. She was taken by the terrorists to New Hampshire where she managed to escape her captors, after killing and scalping 10 of them with the assistance of a couple of her fellow captives.

So here we have 37 people killed and not even a musket to be found. And 10 of the people killed died at the hands of two women and a 14 year old boy.

83 posted on 06/14/2016 10:59:21 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It is impossible to address this level of stupidity.

Slavery was not enshrined in the constitution, it was an acknowledgement of a practice that had predated it by several millennia.

The purpose of the second amendment was to acknowledge an existing, GOD GIVEN RIGHT to self defense with the weapons of your choice.


84 posted on 06/14/2016 11:05:24 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: Savage Beast

One of his pro-abortion tweets (above). 'Nuff said.


85 posted on 06/14/2016 11:09:45 AM PDT by simpson96
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To: BenLurkin
For starters the Founders established a republic and not a democracy. Not sure how someone who “teaches the Constitution” could get that one wrong.

The 17th amendment took care of that.

86 posted on 06/14/2016 11:11:09 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So Mr. Cohen; you claim to teach the Constitution, but you don’t know we live in a REPRESENTATIVE REPUBLIC, NOT A REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY?


87 posted on 06/14/2016 11:14:58 AM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The stupid is strong with this one.


88 posted on 06/14/2016 11:24:01 AM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

David. Why don’t you put GUN FREE ZONE stickers on your house and car. “be the change you want to see.” Thanks to tacticsandpreparedness.com for this quote.


89 posted on 06/14/2016 11:33:17 AM PDT by bravo whiskey (Never bring a liberal gun law to a gun fight,)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The Second Amendment must be repealed, and it is the essence of American democracy TOTALITARIANSIM to say so.
90 posted on 06/14/2016 11:35:22 AM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“I revere the document when it is used to further social justice and make our country a more inclusive one.”

Translation: I only like the parts of it that I can twist to further my Marxist goals.


91 posted on 06/14/2016 11:38:27 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: KC_Lion

GREAT catch!!

LOL!


92 posted on 06/14/2016 11:41:13 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: JD91

Twitter = weaponized fully automatic assault speech


93 posted on 06/14/2016 11:46:07 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Stopped reading at “social justice”


94 posted on 06/14/2016 11:47:28 AM PDT by CheneyClone
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To: JD91

Exactly my thoughts. By this moron’s logic, the 1st Amendment only applies to the physical printing press.


95 posted on 06/14/2016 12:19:03 PM PDT by Squeako (None of them can be trusted. Be ready and act accordingly.)
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To: Drrdot

“...he doesn’t even realize that the point of making slaves count for 3/5 was specifically to limit the congressional power of slave holding states by making sure they didn’t get an inflated house representation?” (Drrdot)

Declaring slaves 3/5 “persons” also served to humanize them… as before they were 0% humans. The liberal is the worst kind of stupid… deliberately stupid!


96 posted on 06/14/2016 12:25:43 PM PDT by FiddlePig
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To: Drrdot
Not to mention, it counted slaves as 3/5, not black people. When slavery was abolished, so was counting anyone as less than 100%.
97 posted on 06/14/2016 12:26:36 PM PDT by Squeako (None of them can be trusted. Be ready and act accordingly.)
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To: KC_Lion

Can’t cure stupid.....but you can vote them out!


98 posted on 06/14/2016 1:08:06 PM PDT by luvie (Love our troops and vets! Thank you for keeping us safe and free!)
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To: Mat_Helm

I quit reading at “but”. Knew what came next.


99 posted on 06/14/2016 1:11:01 PM PDT by luvie (Love our troops and vets! Thank you for keeping us safe and free!)
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To: All
Have at it.

At least the author is advocating using the constitutional process to change the constitution. Libs tend to think that all you need is an executive order or court ruling to usurp the constitution.

The author is correct that if the prevailing sentiment of the country is to somehow get rid of guns, and 2/3 of the house and senate pass it, and 3/4 of the states ratify it, then so be it.

Not going to happen IMHO and I completely disagree with his argument. But at least he's making an argument that recognizes that his desired result should be done constitutionally.
100 posted on 06/14/2016 1:28:02 PM PDT by mmichaels1970 (Hillary lied over four coffins.)
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