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Prehistoric Site in Florida Confirms Pre-Clovis Peopling of the Americas
Popular Archaeology ^ | May 13, 2016

Posted on 05/31/2016 4:14:27 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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1 posted on 05/31/2016 4:14:27 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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a prehistoric archeological site in Florida suggests that 14,550 years ago, hunter-gatherers, possibly accompanied by dogs, butchered or scavenged a mastodon next to a small pond.

I guess they had a dog in the hunt.

2 posted on 05/31/2016 4:20:50 PM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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A friend of mine grew up on a farm near a large spring close to Marianna, Florida.

One day he showed me his collection of arrow heads. I was astounded. There must have been several hundred which he had found on the farm. I suspect that area must have been home to a huge Indian population.


3 posted on 05/31/2016 4:24:25 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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Those skulls they found around the traps for the mammoths were OVAL shaped. Oriental Asian heads are round.
Therefore the Asian Siberian hunter groups, A.K.A., American Indians, were NOT the first Americans. Those Caucasian, oval-headed, hunters were the FIRST Americans.

Not hard to see the difference in skull shapes.

4 posted on 05/31/2016 4:25:08 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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Ping


5 posted on 05/31/2016 4:28:07 PM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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Ping!


6 posted on 05/31/2016 4:32:49 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (It's a shame enobama truly doesn't care about any of this. Our country, our future, he doesn't care)
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The Meadowcroft site, near Pittsburgh, dates back some 19,000 years.


7 posted on 05/31/2016 4:34:48 PM PDT by FroggyTheGremlim (Make America Great Again!)
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The assumptions and conclusions related to the first Clovis artifacts are built on a fragile framework, but those assertions must be debunked before we can begin to build a new chronology.

In Archaeology, the first who stakes a claim must be dethroned before a new pretender can emerge. This is difficult. All than I can say is that the evidence does not support the accepted scenario. The question is how we confirm the accepted scenario, or when to we turn to one of the alternative?

I believe that current science is completely influenced by political objectives, and therefore any conclusion is colored by unreliable information. Objective conclusion are elusive.


8 posted on 05/31/2016 4:42:59 PM PDT by centurion316
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I remember the assertion by a sceptic of the Clovis first hypothesis that most archeologists would get to the layer where Clovis artifacts were found and then stop digging. Apparently a lot of those who kept digging were crackpots and clouded the issue with easily debunked claims of much greater age than the evidence supported e.g. dubious claims of 20,000+ year old tools, were used to justify ignoring better evidence of occupation 13 to 14 thousand years ago.


9 posted on 05/31/2016 5:01:14 PM PDT by Fraxinus (My opinion, worth what you paid.)
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Thanks 2ndDivisionVet.

10 posted on 05/31/2016 5:02:24 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I'll tell you what's wrong with society -- no one drinks from the skulls of their enemies anymore.)
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A schematic showing underwater excavation methodology at Page-Ladson, and location of artifact. Artwork by J.Halligan
11 posted on 05/31/2016 5:11:08 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (Donald Trump, warts and all, is not a public enemy. The Golems in the GOP are stasis and apathy)
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Prehistoric Site in Florida Confirms Pre-Clovis Peopling of the Americas

Well where else would they retire to?

12 posted on 05/31/2016 5:14:38 PM PDT by pepsi_junkie (ui)
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“American Indians, were NOT the first Americans. Those Caucasian, oval-headed, hunters were the FIRST Americans”

It’s Vikings, Erik the Strong!!!


13 posted on 05/31/2016 5:34:53 PM PDT by 9422WMR ("Ignorance can be cured by education, but stupidity is forever.")
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A few caveats, skull shapes change over time. In this case many thousands of years makes a big difference. Pleistocene human forms don’t exist in modern times.

Take a look at Cro-Magnon man which is considered a proto-european. There are no modern skulls just like that (closest affiliation seems to be modern Africa) but nobody is claiming it’s not a european ancestor. Just like Kennewick Man has a skull not exactly like anything modern (closest affiliation is south east Asia) but his genetics ties him to Native Americans.

“Oriental heads” - that morphology didn’t exist until the Holocene.

Native Americans are intermediary in physical features between Caucasion and East Asian which pretty much fits the genetics the article talks about. The same gene pool produced Holocene populations of Native Americans and Europeans and later East Asians.


14 posted on 05/31/2016 5:37:39 PM PDT by Varda
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provide a rare glimpse of the earliest yet known human occupation in the southeastern United States,
15 posted on 05/31/2016 5:39:31 PM PDT by arthurus (Het is waar. Tutti i liberaliThe state decides who can vote on state issues. soli o feccia.)
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provide a rare glimpse of the earliest yet known human occupation in the southeastern United States,
16 posted on 05/31/2016 5:39:53 PM PDT by arthurus (Het is waar. Tutti i liberali soli o feccia.)
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Told ya that us honkeys were here first. Now get outta my yard, Pedro. Oh - mow it first.


17 posted on 05/31/2016 5:47:43 PM PDT by Viking2002 (The Avatar is back by popular request.)
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Cactus Hill, Virginia and Topper, SC as well. All seem to be on the East coast of North America, just where the glaciers ended and at the most southern limit of sea ice in the Atlantic during the last major glaciation. Sea ice that extended in an arc across the Atlantic to France and Spain.

The sea level was 300 feet lower then, so much more land OFF the US East Coast and France/Spain West coast.

Image humans in France going out to sea to catch seals and fish in skin hide boats, following the sea ice edge... And, either inadvertently or in a storm — reaching the American coast. Perhaps there were even waves of such voyages.


18 posted on 05/31/2016 6:02:38 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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The so called “Native” Americans are going to owe us, bigtime.


19 posted on 05/31/2016 7:09:08 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Clinton supporters are the people Alexis de Toqueville warned us about.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

OK

How Old are the Pyramids in Egypt? The Pyramids of Mexico and South America? The Mounds all over North America.

The estimates are all over the place!

But... when it comes to Important Stuff!

http://www.documentarywire.com/how-beer-saved-the-world/

Cheers!


20 posted on 05/31/2016 7:14:52 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (Idiocracy used to just be a Movie... Live every day as your last...one day you will be right)
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