Or Malmedy when US soldiers were executed by the SS.
Is this worth a "social experiment" to see how feminists would do in combat?
I have no issue with the rare woman who can stand toe to toe with any man doing any job she wishes in the military.
However, I have a MAJOR issue with lowering the bar to allow women into positions they are not fit for.
I remember when they added women to my ship, cost the Navy 1b to add special berths and heads and a renovated medical bay.
Took us out of action for additional 4 months in overhaul.
“.........If the insane policies of this administration are not amended and amended soon, we may be witnessing the final days of the United States of America.”
and he ain’t kidding folks.
Or Malmedy when US soldiers were executed by the SS.
Is this worth a "social experiment" to see how feminists would do in combat?
Over 20 yrs. ago, a former military officer told me that he
had quit the service. He was over a group of medical
personnel, many of whom were women. - They were given a
“bug-out” order. They were supposed to load some heavy
medical equipment on trucks. (Women do not have the upper
body strength to lift heavy loads.) They did not finish
loading; they simply could not lift the equipment; they did
not “bug-out”. End of story. - Of course, with metrosexuals
running our government now, the rules will be dumbed down
to make “Little Suzy” look good & also accommodate the
homosexuals’ proclivities.
My dad stated that in WWII; they started out with a few
homosexuals in the Army in basic. They washed out; could
not hold up to the rigors. (Those men were serious about
beating the Nazis & had no time for playing ugly sex. It
was life or death & not fun & games.)
It will be disastrous
pboyington,
Well said. And a majority of what you said got down to the real issue, that of physical capacity. War in direct combat is a taxing and overwhelming strength requirement of the upper body as much as the lower. Both halves must be at top performance so as not to put yourself, your unit, or the mission in jeopardy.The lowest level of pass/fail to stay in the military is the annual PFT, (Physical Fitness Test). At this time the Army is trying to re-create those standards. Here is an article from the Army Times:
The Army is on the eve of rolling out new MOS-specific, gender-neutral fitness tests, and new details have begun to emerge.
The tests “should be good to go by June,” said Patrick Murphy, acting Army secretary, in a Tuesday interview with Army Times. That plan, and others related to adding women into previously closed military occupational specialties, is contingent on Defense Department approval.
While no final decisions have been made, it’s unlikely every MOS will get its own fitness test, owing to the impracticality of creating and conducting one for each specialty, Army test-developers said. One solution could involve implementing a single test and creating a tiered scoring system — soldiers with high marks could serve in the most physically demanding jobs, while those who eked out passing grades would have their MOS options restricted.
The tests likely will incorporate exercises that soldiers will need on the battlefield, Murphy said, and they are expected to revolve around “advanced individual skills that are MOS-specific, gender-neutral and standards-based.”
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Now in many years of watching, scoring and conducting these tests and those for the academies, I have never personally seen a woman with the capacity to pass the test good enough to be combat qualified. So what the Army is saying in my mind is that they know the women can’t get there so they are giving them an out to other less fitness required MOSes. So if they know hardly any of the women, if at all, can qualify. this is how they are going to get out of admitting it was just a stupid idea to begin with. And everybody’s ego is covered and the liberals get their vote pandering.
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Israel tried women in combat roles. It just didn’t work out. Obama never learns from history.
Next is another highly critical response time All Hands and that is Man Overboard. We had to physically report to our work station and no one not even the Captain was exempt. The person on watch had to make an on sight muster of all hands in the shop. This often happened after many shops had stopped work for the day at sea usually at night. It was essential to determine if indeed someone fell over, what side the fell from, what clothing and water survival gear they possibly had on them, and how many persons for certain. If you were taking a shower when the whistle was blown for man overboard was blown you wrapped in a towel and immediately reported.
Then there is the ever danger of fire which any sailor respects and knows the dangers of. Manning a fire hose takes two teams of three men of pretty significant size while about 175 PSI of water pressure came out of the nozzles. Each duty section had about 12-15 men on fire department duty section to do all the task it required. Then there is the issue of casualties and having to save an injured shipmate by doing a fireman carry up a trunk. Fire Bell was a limited response usually by the ships fire department.
I was in the Fire Dept and we often dressed and were gearing up while running down the passageway. For the Pre-1980 carrier vets reading this in 1980 carriers or at least mine went to a permanent Fire Dept Division both in port and at sea.
Then there is the physical strength needed. My shop had to move 200 lb barrels of R-11 frequently and get it from the hanger deck down to the 6th deck without killing ourselves or others. There is also the reality of death at sea due to accidents. Anybody ready to see their daughter killed by an accident during a routine peacetime aircraft re-spot? Ships go to sea and some men die both in war and peace.
For Snipes meaning ones working in Engineering there is the danger of a Steam Break. Yes even on Nukes as they are steamers. On a carrier it's 1200 psi of super heated steam. Super heated means you can not see it.
Look at a pencil lead. A steam leak that size can decapitate anyone coming in contact with it. You can't hear it and you can't see it. It isn't love boat nor the good ship lollipop. It is a combat vessel meant for war. By all means watch Trial By Fire. Any recruit before enlisting should watch it. Those are real men really dieing. It is flightdeck footage.
Any female combatant captured by Muslims can be expected to star in her own pron snuff film. Women don’t belong in combat.
I don’t care how it is rationalized. Once s culture loses the concept of women and children first, it is doomed.
This goes away when the pile of body bags gets high enough.
Just identify 35% of the men as transgender women and it will be OK...
:)
Women: Stop voting Democrat and this won’t be an issue.
Are we not going to war to protect a way of life? We call it "the American way of life," do we not?
By sending American women into combat, are we not actually changing incalculably the "way of life" in our country? Are we not destroying by social engineering what we say we are defending by going to war?
Literally millions of American families have maintained by deliberate choice the family structure, reasons for and vows of marriage, child-rearing design, educational objectives, religious faith and hope, etc., that were held by their grandparents' and great grandparents' generation (i.e., that which existed when we were fighting Germany and Japan). We include ourselves in that "way of life." We take this as "the American way of life." This is what we expect to be defended.
Millions of American families, yes, today in 2016, still educate and train their women for building the next generation of American Christian patriot statesmen and jurists, soldiers, ministers and missionaries. We educate and train our daughters to be the next generation of wives and mothers who can accomplish the rearing of such individuals. We firmly believe that the home and family as it existed generally, say, from 1600 to 1950 is necessary to produce the finest results. And in our Biblicist Christian faith, we further believe that is being obedient to God and it is what brings glory to Him.
Tell us, and millions of American families like us, how the social engineering in the modern progressive Pentagon can convince us that the "American way of life" is being defended when they insist that we abandon that way of life and send our daughters into combat.
What? Even young mothers leaving their husbands at home, their darling children at home with relatives, to don combat dress, and carry rifles around in the deserts of the Middle East or in fields elsewhere? This is defending the "American way of life?" Someone can tell us this this dissolution of family structure and purpose is defending the American way of life?
We could never believe this.
Someone,A General I believe, once said,
“Why would you want to take what is so wonderful about being a woman, nurturing etc, and replace it with what is so horrid about being a man, war, fighting, killing?”
not a direct quote, but close I think
HOW DO YOU SET “QUOTAS” ON A volunteer force...???
As if the screams of wounded men wasn’t enough.