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To: kjam22

I think you are equating conservatism with just social issues. It’s much more than that - Trump is conservative on immigration, the military, wanting to pay off our debt, the vets, doing away with Obamacare and common Core - trade deals that benefit America, big 2nd Amendment guy, as well as 1st Amendment. What isn’t conservative about that? Cruzbots look through such a narrow tunnel - you could call it tunnel vision.


44 posted on 04/18/2016 6:00:58 PM PDT by Catsrus (I callz 'eYou m as I seez 'em)
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To: Catsrus
I think you are equating conservatism with just social issues. It’s much more than that - Trump is conservative on immigration, the military, wanting to pay off our debt, the vets, doing away with Obamacare and common Core - trade deals that benefit America, big 2nd Amendment guy, as well as 1st Amendment. What isn’t conservative about that? Cruzbots look through such a narrow tunnel - you could call it tunnel vision.

Trumpy....

Immigration... send them home, then let them come back

Military... Not sure what the nuclear triad is but he likes it.

Obamacare... we're going to insure people. We have to. Something bigger and better than Obammycare.

Trade deals.... we'll raise taxes on people (that consumers ultimately pay)

2nd Ammendment ... I agree, he says he carries, but then so do half the gang members in Detroit.

1st amendment... he wants to make it easier to sue the press.

Yeah... Trumpy is a conservative allright.... lol

57 posted on 04/18/2016 6:06:33 PM PDT by kjam22 (America need forgiveness from God..... even if Donald Trump doesn't)
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To: Catsrus
Cruzbots look through such a narrow tunnel - you could call it tunnel vision.

Again, this isn't about Cruzbots or Trumpets. It is about Cruz and Trump. The list you presented omitted commitment to smaller government and a special emphasis to adherence to the Constitution. Outside of quips that come and go on NBC matters, the rest of it does not seem to capture Trump's attention or even his imagination. It could well be that it is a quixotic goal or one that cannot capture a majority of the ADHD generation, but it is something that is present in the ideology of nearly the entire conservative movement, particularly the Republican conservative movement.
75 posted on 04/18/2016 6:14:41 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("There is no limit to the amount of good you can do if you don't care who gets the credit."-R.Reagan)
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To: Catsrus

I support Cruz but agree with your statement. However, social issues (character) counts and - Trump is big government when it comes to education and health care.

Trump is a very recent convert to conservatism in some areas - and that concerns me.

I very much like Trumps outspokenness on illegals and muslims.

However, statements like the one above that Trump is more conservative than Cruz are seriously ignorant.

Trump’s lack of a track record concerns me and lack of morals concerns me (Casino’s are probably the sleaziest legal businesses in most states). His lack of emotional maturity bothers me. I don’t think he is particularly bright. Oddly, on the flip side, he is very good at dealing with people and manipulating opinion. So while he makes me cringe at times he has strong leadership skills.

Cruz’ wife concerns me a bit. Cruz is a rock solid constitution conservative. He is generally brilliant in debate. However, he doesn’t smile enough and he strikes many people as false. Based on conversations I have had with people who know him that appears to be more the camera than reality - but in an election - perception is reality.

I think Trump has a better chance of winning the general than Cruz.

I think Cruz has a better chance of winning the nomination than Trump because Cruz understands that most states do not pick delegates based on popular vote - a crappy system but a pre-existing reality. How could Trump not pay attention to that?

But - it is refreshing to actually share information on the candidates with someone as apposed to shallow posts going back and forth that sound like something out of first grade.


119 posted on 04/18/2016 6:44:30 PM PDT by TheTimeOfMan (Three Percenter - Cruz/West)
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