Posted on 04/16/2016 7:10:52 AM PDT by bray
It is amazing how many of the RINOs love Cruz or actually using him as a willing dupe. If you aren’t hated by those people you are on the wrong side.
Che wasn’t an American born on flag day.
“Che wasn’t an American born on flag day.”
So now you are putting qualifiers in the definition of patriot that were never there.
Do you see now how stupid it is to imply if someone is born on a day that makes one a patriot?
It is rubbish.
No doubt Cruz is as patriotic toward his home country of Canada as Trump is toward the USA.
If King George III fathered a child with an American woman, that would be a great shame to the American woman but, according to current standards, the child would be a NBC. Call the courts anti-American and Marxist if you like but that is hardly an intellectual or judicial argument. They don't become anti-American or Marxist just because on NBC, they uniformly disagree with the Birthers.
In those days, however, there seemed to be a reluctance to recognize citizenship passing through an American mother. Your more appropriate analogy would be if Mad Georgie's sister had been impregnated by Patrick Henry, the child would be an NBC. No court in the land would deny that citizenship wcan pass through the mother. In fact, even the Birther fantasy insists, unlike the actual constitution, that BOTH parents be American citizens.
As to your fantasy that as a Cruz supporter, I just MUST have supported Romney (any Romney but particularly Moral Monster Mitt Romney), I invite you to scan my posting history. Most of the anti-Romney people here have been run off by this gutter campaign. He was the first GOP POTUS candidate that I refused to vote for since I started voting in POTUS races in 1968. Wana try to make that two in a row? You are doing a good job of it but I am still stubborn. I am more stubborn than some of my FRiends and I ain't going nowhere. I will be here along with the other ACTUAL CONSERVATIVES long after your secular messiah crumbles. We are the ones who must, as ever, pick up the shards of this disgrace of a campaign.
I live in the CD (IL-16) immediately south of the Wisconsin district of the despicable Paul Ryan. If I were still able to walk normally I would be going there to help his primary opponent. I was willing to give Jeb Bush a fair hearing. His support for Common Core and his expressed desire to be nominated without the base, made up my mind against him now and forever. I don't think I ever posted a word about Light Loafers Linseed Graham (not Gram) without calling him exactly that. Carly Fiorina and Nikki (proper spelling) Haley are transitory figures not part of the conservative core and of no lasting importance. It is GoldMAN Sachs and you can review my posts on "Wall Street, K Street and the US Chamber of Crony Commerce" as well as the $$$$$ whores of Goldman Sachs and every similar outfit farming Americans of modest means to fatten Muffy's trust fund and likely those of the Trump descendants. OR you can stop lying about me. The Club for Growth is accused of being GOP-E simply because that group testifies to economic issues and is characterized by economic literacy.
Meanwhile the Manhattan vulgar motormouth, an actual billionaire in Manhattan circles with Manhattan "values" and who graduated the thoroughly Ivy League Wharton School of Finance (best in the country) at University of Pennsylvania runs around the country autoyakking about slapping 45% tariffs on businesses moving abroad, as though he were an economic illiterate. Think that one through if you are able. That would certainly do nothing to stop companies from fleeing the USA for friendlier climates and venues with lower taxes and lower labor costs. The owners of those corporations did not become as wealthy as they are by being stupid, much less stupid enough to be pushed around by Trump's guff. He tickles your ears with pretty lies and you lap it up as though he can create reality with that foul mouth of his.
Mexico has had an effectively communist party (the PRI or Institutional Revolutionary Party) running it for all but 6 years (Vincente Fox) since the early 1920s. That party under Placido Calles and others martyred Roman Catholic priests for merely saying Mass against government orders leading to the Cristero Revolution of the late 1920s which regrettably failed. Obozo persecutes my religion as well. BTW, even Vincente Fox has called Trump out for the ignorant buffoon that he is if he thinks that Mexico is paying for the Wall Almighty, but Trump tickles your ears and you lap it up.
I am capable of making distinctions. Mitt Romney (M3R) was the single WORST excuse (morally, politically, policywise, Romneycare, went on autowimp against Obozo, etc.), ad infinitum). I will NEVER vote for that despicable babykilling POS. Trump is no wimp (but he is also no pro-lifer whatever he may hallucinate for the peanut gallery) and it would probably be a great deal of fun to see him tangle with the Arkansas Medusa. Not that either of them is fit to be POTUS. However, even Trump does not approach the evil of M3R. As things stand, I intend to vote for Trump with an industrial strength clothes pin on my nose IF he is the nominee. I preferred Scott Walker to all of them. You can change my mind though. Keep those ignorant insults coming and you never know. I seriously doubt he gets elected or is even competitive with Her Royal Thighness anyhow which may free me from that shame. Then I can vote for Tom Hoefling again. Tom never disappoints.
By the way, you forgot to lie that I am somehow in bed with Mitch McConnell, John Cornyn, LAMAR!!!! Alexander, Bob Corker, Thad Cockroach, Kevin McCarthy, Haley Barbour, the Rockefellers, the Warburgs, the Bilderburgers, the CFR, the Trilateralists, and let's not forget His Temporary Holiness Francis, etc. I freely confess that I do NOT get my "news" from Infowars, either and I don't think 9/11 was either an Israeli operation or an inside job. I also believe (indeed know) that JFK went down to Lee Harvey Oswald and (maybe) one other shooter from behind, none on the "grassy knoll in front, and I am not impressed by Kim Kardashian and her acres of silicon stuffed skin. I would also be delighted if we pulled out of the UN at the earliest opportunity and stopped sending it checks.
Now run along, little fellow, and learn something before you ebarrass yourself further.
What you CLAIM happened was ineffective since those girls were already NBCs. Ask any and all courts nowadays and they are right.
Is that what the courts are doing too? Are all judges and all courts Alinskyites or Obamunists? Puhleeeeze! You have opinions. The courts issue opinions with the force of law. Don’t like that? Then how would you modify the constitution to teach them judges what fer?
LePage said his daughters had to be naturalized in order to become US citizens. He knows the circumstances of his own daughters far better than you do.
The scenario you envision is absurd. I.e.: the idea that no one involved at any step of the process would point out that naturalization was unnecessary in the case of the LePage daughters. You imagine that everyone would participate in this ludicrous charade with a nod and a wink, saying amongst themselves, ‘We have to humor Paul; he drank the Kool Aid.’
It’s like arguing with Obots all over again. They would propose bizarrely irrational scenarios, and then claim it really happened that way. Get a grip.
When you use the Obama/Alinsky term ‘birther’ to deflect legitimate questions re the circumstances of Cruz’ birth, it is the height of dishonesty.
Chester Arthur was a conservative Republican, a so-called Stalwart. Check out his status. Born certainly in Canada, probably of Canadian parents. Are you pretending to be an expert on the citizenship status of all those who served as POTUS? That would be a hopeless task according to strict Birther fantasy. Was M3R qualified by those standards? Goldwater? George Romney? John McCain? All other major party POTUS candidates? You might get easy research on birthplace. Citizenship of parent(s) not so much.
I am kind of partial to missionary pots for Birthers. Maybe Obozo's Kentyan relatives can supply them? I am not going to apologize either, at my age, for dropping a letter every now and then.
The constitution most certainly does not enshrine Birther fantasy that would require TWO American parents AND birth in the US. Also the XIVth Amendment has something to say about birthplace but not restrictively so and NOTHING about citizenship of parents. The XIVth Amendment is, by definition, enacted SUBSEQUENT to the original constitution and therefore, modifies it to the extent necessary. That rule of judicial construction is as ironclad as any and guarantees that we have an ongoing ability to legislate changes in constitution or law, by amendment or statute as may me appropriate to the change.
Why resist Birtherism? Because it plays no role in our constitution and Trumpettes are cute when they are pissed. It's fun to enforce the constitution AS WRITTEN against any and all who would distort it.
To be a conservative. He is not and never has been.
Trump CLAIMS to be a pro-lifer. He has always been a militant pro-abort. His clumsy attempts to gull the suckers on this issue show not that he is a pro-lifer but that e understands neither the words nor the music of pro-life.
Trump is quite economically literate as an alumnus of the Wharton School of Finance. He makes believe he is an economic illiterate when he knows better but 45% tariffs and the tough guy will teach those fleeing comanies a lesson is what tickles the mark's ears and is wahat they want to hear.
He will build The Wall (maybe) and will make the Mexicans PAY for it. I have this nice traditional bridge connecting Brooklyn and Manhattan. I'll sell it to you for a few million dollars in small, unmarked bills by quit claim deed. You can set up a toll gate and become RICHER than Trump! At least until you are arrested for a fraud not of your own making since I don't own duh Bridge and can't really sell it to you. But, hey, it may be what you want to hear! Isn't that all that counts?
I DO believe him when he says he will make "deals" with Schmucky Chewmer and Nancy Pelosi. THAT's credible! p> And, gee, Trump can't be a liar, can he? Not when every other phrase out of his vulgar mouth accuses Cruz of being "Lyin' Ted."
He’s been making and building his whole life. Employed more people in the private sector probably more than all Presidents before him combined.
He’s not a lawyer working with the GOP against change like Cruz.
Cruz is proving to be another Obama, I’d worry more about that.
“He’s been making and building his whole life. Employed more people in the private sector probably more than all Presidents before him combined.
He’s not a lawyer working with the GOP against change like Cruz.
Cruz is proving to be another Obama, I’d worry more about that.
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Making and building(BTW, also destroying) his whole life does not make one a conservative. Stalin did those things, too.
I do not enjoy most lawyers either. Ted, like Rehnquist, Scalia or Thomas, happens to be a lawyer who knows the Constitution. He can fight for conservatism, as evidenced in his few short years in the Senate.
Trump has no conservative track record, and what he does show on social conservatism is a big fat zero.
One cannot be a conservative if one does not have social conservatism.
And I am unworried on what Ted will do if he gets elected President.
The real big issue anyway is not for the Presidency. A President can be controlled by a Congress that does its job to uphold the Constitution.
Congress is the big target to change, and I feel Cruz will be able to steer more of the fatcats GOPe toward conservative principles than just a street boxer.
Cruz is Obama. Even Palin pointed a lot of the bull with Cruz and she once helped him.
Cruz is a paper pushing guy who would never make it past middle management.
No personality.
No crowds for him.
Wrong kind of connections.
I sense a real phoney in Ted Cruz.
He had me before his hijinks.
I donated four times before he exposed himself as IMO a real creep.
Cruz is dirty, we see what he is this election and he really sucks.
YOu got Ted wrong. he is the real deal conservative as we found out here in Texas when he beat a sitting GOPe Lt Governor who outspent him 10 to 1.
I have met Ted, his family and know he is a patriot.
You have been drinking some koolaid or watching too many MSNBC shows, friend.
Trump is a breath of fresh air with his lack of political correctness, As a President? I don’t think so. He is as much a narcissist as Obama. It is always about him, and it is always someone else’s fault. Does that not remind you of the current WH occupant?
you certainly contain the right FR handle name with that comment.
Keep it, it does you good.
“Cruz is Obama”
Also, hard to even begin to relate the differences between these two.
Did Cruz have a broken-family and friends that were communists or anti-colonistic believers?
Did Cruz get thru Harvard on AA? BTW, ask Dershowitz that one.
Did Cruz sit 20 years in a church pew listening to anti-American rhetoric?
Was Cruz just a part-time law lecturer for a college or did he actually win arguments on Constitutional law before the Supreme Court?
As to social conservatism, did Cruz says we need abortion because he would not punish his daughters if they made a mistake?
You are hopelessly throwing garbage against the wall hoping something will stick.
What, did somebody ask you that? None of that is relevant.
Chester Arthur was a conservative Republican, a so-called Stalwart. Check out his status. Born certainly in Canada, probably of Canadian parents.
Another damn Canuk usurper. (yeah we all know about that)
Are you pretending to be an expert on the citizenship status of all those who served as POTUS?
Well, same as anyone else who can read. It's not real complicated.
Was M3R qualified by those standards?
Who?
Goldwater?
Born in US Territory, probably yes.
George Romney?
Probably not
John McCain?
Panama was a US protectorate, (unlike Canada) his parents were there in service to the US. (unlike Crews)
None of them got elected. And the term is not "qualified" it's "eligible"
I am not going to apologize either, at my age, for dropping a letter every now and then.
IT'S AN ACRONYN for crying out loud. We can only assume you meant:
Parents Over the Shoulder, Perception of Teasing Scale, Plain Old Time Sharing, Post Office Telephone Service, Purchase Of Telephones & Services, Purchasing Online Tracking System, Playhouse on the Square, Postural Orthostatic Tachycardia Syndrome, Protector of the Small, P!$$ Off, Tomorrow's Saturday, Plain Old Telephone System, Part of the Solution, Parting on the Square, Pat on the Shoulder, or Path Of The Shell.
The constitution most certainly does not enshrine Birther fantasy that would require TWO American parents AND birth in the US.
They didn't define "war" or the little baby Jesus either. Both are mentioned in the Constitution. They figured nobody would be so stupid as to not know the meanings. AND, you forgot to capitalize Constitution.
Why resist Birtherism?
Because it's RAT-speak, right out of the Obama campaign, after Hillary pointed out what's-his-name's ineligibility. But it's derogatory, sort of like if I called you a Child Molester. Not that I'm calling you a child molester or anything. Unless, of course, you are one.
Because it plays no role in our constitution [sic]
Really! You mean the framers WANTED the English "royalty" to be able to become President of the United States?
Using your logic, anybody from any country (or planet for that matter) could be President...no limitations....
I don't think so.
The XIVth Amendment is, by definition, enacted SUBSEQUENT to the original constitution and therefore, modifies it to the extent necessary.
That refers only to naturalization and citizenship...not eligibility.
That rule of judicial construction is as ironclad as any and guarantees that we have an ongoing ability to legislate changes in constitution or law, by amendment or statute as may me appropriate to the change.
You did not say that...you did not say that...
GEEEEEEZZ!!!
You got a bet.
So in your mind Cruz isn’t a native-born Canadian.
Now it’s clear why you support him. Delusional.
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