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I think this guy is mostly clueless, but this is always an interesting topic worthy of discussion.

I'll expound more in the discussion area...

1 posted on 02/09/2016 8:52:56 AM PST by PreciousLiberty
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...because Agenda 21 will ban the use of private cars and have us all packed into Willie Green bullet trains by the time the technology is perfected.


2 posted on 02/09/2016 8:55:43 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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Forget cures for cancer, climate change or world peace, the media has made it clear that self-driving cars will be the Next Great Step in civilizations drive toward magnificence.

Well, in the likely event that many cancers will never be cured, climate change is out of our control and is mostly benign, and there will be wars until the second coming, we may as well come up with cool cars. Hey, the author left out world hunger.
3 posted on 02/09/2016 8:58:23 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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I am against driver less cars because the idea of personal transportation is supposed to cheap and available to the masses. We keep loading cars down with technology and EPA required equipment and pretty soon only the rich can afford to buy and keep them up. Even used the cars will be prohibitively expensive.

We don't even have driver less trains and they run on rails for heavens sake.

5 posted on 02/09/2016 9:03:12 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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We’re not that far from self-flying pods programmed to avoid collision and get you to your GPS coordinates quickly, safely, and conveniently. Going to a concert in the big city? Punch in the event and your parking space is already reserved. You may fly with or without looking outside, listen to tunes, watch TV, and drink a brew or two while in transit.

This will all be by virtue of the discovery of nuclear-magno-pneumatic velocitators, capable also of powering the average home for 100 years, no power grid necessary.


6 posted on 02/09/2016 9:04:42 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew (Diversity is Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama sharing the same jail cell.)
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I have no doubt driverless cars can work. But people are viewing them as simply technological constructs, completely unconnected to the society in which they operate.

For example, in my city, if driverless cars passed through certain areas, they would most definitely be objects of graffiti “tagging” at best - at worst they would be constantly vandalized, seemingly for fun, or broken into. So then you need to upgrade their protection or laws regarding tampering, etc... Overall, beyond the simple question of “will they work” - these devices then enter the social, economic, racial, environmental etc.. spheres, where technology will take a back-seat.


7 posted on 02/09/2016 9:05:03 AM PST by PGR88
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The short version of why I think he’s wrong is that:

a) I think government will grant blanket immunity from prosecution/lawsuits once the tech proves overall safer than human drivers, and

b) for the foreseeable future there’ll be a requirement for a human ready to take over. That avoids the “software that breaks the law” issue.


15 posted on 02/09/2016 9:16:03 AM PST by PreciousLiberty
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Driverless cars are coming faster than most people think. Cars are already incorporating driverless features. Various types of traction control and automated brake control are standard on many vehicles. The new Bentley can park itself - both parallel and diagonal.

I think the first truly driverless vehicles will be UPS and FedEx delivery trucks. With a robotic arm that drops the package near your front door.


16 posted on 02/09/2016 9:17:21 AM PST by Parmenio
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They are not “driverless” cars. It says right there that the driver has to be ready to take over the driving in situations that the car can’t handle.
So they’re not “driverless” cars.

The guy is mostly right, except for “driverless” trucks. That will not happen.

The software in a “driverless” car will be no help against a carjacking. No help if your car is surrounded by a band of street savages trying to break in and hurt, kill or rape you.

The braking system will not distinguish between a bag blowing in the wind, a rabbit, a doll, a dog, and a child. The human driver will brake differently for different things. Specifically, he will brake for the dog and the child, and ignore the others.

The real goal in all this is complete government control of what’s on the roads. The statists hate it when you have any freedom to do what you want. This would make everyone the same behind the wheel.


17 posted on 02/09/2016 9:17:26 AM PST by I want the USA back (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. Orwell.)
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The possibility for government to dictate who goes exactly where, when and at what speed is a tantalizing concept for Big Government types. Add in insurance companies collecting money and not paying it out, and law enforcement being able to stop any car or ground all cars in a tri-county area (for safety reasons. The greens think they’ll be able to dictate how many polluting miles you can drive. Politicians and marketers will want to see the driving history of everyone for their predictive databases.

Lots of pressure to get driverless cars.


25 posted on 02/09/2016 9:23:59 AM PST by DBrow
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These same people think we already have self-firing guns.


31 posted on 02/09/2016 9:34:14 AM PST by umgud
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Oh they’re happening. Most of the big decisions we make while driving can be lumped into 2 categories: dealing with other people’s mistakes, making our own mistakes. Driverless cars stop making #2, and with enough of them on the road #1 becomes unnecessary.

Insurance policies already cover the car in most cases, that’s why the price of your car, and crash rating, have so much impact on the cost of your insurance. And lacking injuries car accidents are leaning more and more “no fault” and each insurance company is just handling their client.

The legal hurdles will be navigated. And once they’re out there consumer acceptance will follow. Once upon a time there as very little consumer acceptance for cars all, we can see how that changed. A lot of people used to think the internet was silly and or evil too. Times change, technology gets accepted.


32 posted on 02/09/2016 9:35:02 AM PST by discostu (This is a different kind of flying... all together.)
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the Silicone Way is to "just do it" - and apologize later.

Clueless.


33 posted on 02/09/2016 9:35:13 AM PST by Reeses (A journey of a thousand miles begins with a government pat down.)
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38 posted on 02/09/2016 9:39:58 AM PST by sauropod (I am His and He is mine.)
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Driverless vehicles (with no human backup) and drone and driverless delivery vehicles will be the target of so many thieves and pranksters that alone could make them impractical. And hackers will learn to hack the things and divert them to a different destination.

These things might be a bridge too far.


39 posted on 02/09/2016 9:41:32 AM PST by Will88
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Driver less cars with bench seats may have a market. But with bucket seats there’s no advantage.
And they’ll have to get exempted from seat belt laws.

Anything that increases the fertility rate is a good thing.


44 posted on 02/09/2016 9:43:57 AM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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As a developer for 30 years, I wouldn’t want to come anywhere close to working on these projects. The meetings with lawyers and marketing and industry/insurance/government would be a nightmare. The decisions of when to protect the driver vs when to do the least likely harm to everyone would be unpleasant either way.

I’m sure there would be lots of talk about how MY car should be allowed to protect ME. And if that’s not allowed, Bernie supporters will want to ensure that the 1% can’t replace the software to protect the owner more than others because the car has to treat the 99% like the 1%. And if the other driver decided to buy a green car made of paper, my SUV may need to total itself because we don’t know what may happen if we hit a car made of paper and fueled by unicorn farts.

And, no matter what immunity the government promises there will be law suites if a bug (or intentional rule) in my code decides who dies.


50 posted on 02/09/2016 9:53:08 AM PST by LostPassword
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Oh, it will happen. I could definitely see the need for some sort of isolation of driver-driven and software-driven vehicles during the transition, though, perhaps similar to commuting lanes now, which means development in cities first (where they're needed) that creeps out into the country gradually.

Personally, I love to drive. I have a performance car with a manual transmission and it's sort of my daily amusement as well as transportation. Others don't feel that way, and more power to them (and more road for me). When it's time for the transition, i.e. when driving isn't fun anymore (my Mom reached that stage when she hit 80 - night driving was just too scary) I'll stop and stick to reminiscing.

Like the time I drove 20 miles in the left lane with my blinker going...

63 posted on 02/09/2016 10:11:33 AM PST by Billthedrill
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wrong.

we are VERY close to this becoming the norm.

I would trust a computer 10000000000 times more than the average walmart shopper to be driving the car next to me on the road!

I suspect driverless cars will be phased in. Starting with a special lane on the interstates dedicated to them with a higher speed limit. Then gradually the lanes dedicated to driverless will be expanded to include the entire interstate.

Cars driven by humans will be forced to use state highways.


71 posted on 02/09/2016 10:34:19 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, R)
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Uninsurable, I would presume.


77 posted on 02/09/2016 10:56:44 AM PST by Jim Noble (I won't be laughing at the lies when I'm gone, and I won't question what or when or why when I'm gon)
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All the DWI lawyers will loose their jobs?


79 posted on 02/09/2016 10:57:31 AM PST by hadaclueonce (This time it is serious.)
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