Posted on 02/05/2016 9:46:39 AM PST by amorphous
...The Russian-Turkish conflict in Syria is not going to be an easy one for either party. If Russia threatens to cripple Turkey by cutting-off the gas supplies, it will also hurt Russia's economy while Muslim Azerbaijan will gladly provide Turkey with a new gas-hookup bringing the Turkic states closer to Istanbul and further from Moscow. On the other hand, the increasing Muslim global menace is the fire necessary for Christendom's refinement, unity, and even bringing Jerusalem (which no longer trusts Turkey) closer to Cyprus.
This conflict is the new equilibrium that will create the neo-Ottoman hegemony to form the nations of Ezekiel 38. The crucial factor to be considered is that if Turkey and Russia had a full out blown war in Syria, Turkey will initially be the victor. Putin's military options are constrained. He has only limited forces in Syria and the Trans-Caucasus area bordering Turkey, while Ankara has the second-largest fleet of F-16s in the world and the second-largest army in NATO. It also has logistical and geographical advantages that include control of the Dardanelles and the Bosporus, Russia’s egress to Syria.
But even if Turkey initially wins, it will eventually be crushed by Russia, but only in the end. This is rooted in history stretching back to the Ottoman Empire. At one point or another, the Ottoman Turks ruled over or defeated all of modern Turkey's neighbors except Russia. Between the fifteenth century, when the Ottoman and Russian Empires became neighbors, and 1917, the year of the Bolshevik revolution, the two peoples fought at least seventeen long wars, all of them instigated - and won - by the Russians...
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To a minimal degree. If Russia are such Christian soldiers, why are they in the Middle East fighting for Iran in the first place? Why is Russia about to screw over their Christian Armenian allies, in favor of Muslim Azerbajan?
Stay out of it and hopefully Russia will kick their asses.
First of all Turkey and Iran are allies, despite any skirmish. It's not in either of their interests to go to war. Russia desperately needs to see oil to Turkey.
Secondly, Russia would be badly overextended. Putin is good at bluffing, but he'd make a serious mistake getting involved in a war in the Middle East.
Does Russia cutting off Turkey’s supply line count?
The last two days saw government troops and their Lebanese and Iranian allies fully encircle the countryside north of Aleppo and cut off the main supply route linking the city - Syria’s largest before the war - to Turkey. Ankara said it suspected the aim was to starve the population into submission.
http://news.yahoo.com/syrian-rebel-commander-says-northern-aleppo-countryside-totally-100956714.html
They are cutting of the Assad opponent’s supply line, not Turkeys. Russia and Turkey may disagree on Assad, but it probably won’t move beyond that.
What a coincidence. The orthodox church is the reason the Pope wanted Hitler to invade in the first place.
Those times have/are changing under Erdogan. Turkey is turning away from secularism to Islamism under their current leader, who some say he has aspirations of becoming the head of a new Islamic Caliphate.
Today, Turkey's government under Erdogan is no ally of Russia's government under Putin.
I just seems Russia, with it’s population and military would make them a very formidable opponent.
Disagree. Watch for this to become even more apparent as things continue to deteriorate and the drums of war get louder.
I will interpret: the authors focus on eschatology shapes what he reports and how he interprets events to the extent that nothing the author writes is credible.
Your argument is ridiculous. Putin’s government is a close ally of Iran. Iran has a far more extreme Islamic government than Turkey. Russia is fighting in Syria on behalf of Iran. So your idea that Putin is opposed to be Islamic nations is just plain wrong.
You are trying to make Putin some kind of Christian hero. That is a misguided effort.
Putin ultimately wants to control Iran, it’s been a Russian goal for a long time, so he’s playing nice with the Islamists now to try to gain more of a foothold in Iran.
You interpret wrongly then. Go to his site and read some of his reporting on the atrocities committed in the name of 'Allah'.
What would Russia get out of this war? The only reason they are in Syria is to save Assad for Iran and their own use of a port there.
Good luck on that.
You're attempting to simply something which is complex, not to mention dynamic and ever evolving. Russia is getting drawn into this regardless if it's against its better judgement/wishes or not.
The turmoil is caused by two existing factions of Islam struggling for dominance as well as competing petroleum producers and consumers - of which both Russia and the West are large stake holders.
Alliances come and go as the situation demands. Russia has aligned itself with Syria/Iran, putting differences of state religions aside in furtherance of more important considerations.
I never said Putin would oppose ALL Islamic nations in this. I was only putting an emphasis on different the different Islamic factions (Shias/Sunnis) involved, for better understanding of how current alliances came about.
At some point, I see the Shias/Sunnis either uniting or one gaining dominance over the other. I also see this leading to a worldwide conflagration (i.e. WWIII).
End times ping
Don’t forget to stock up on mustard gas!
My trench cut through my septic tank’s leach field.
Now it turns out I have my own supply of gas!
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