Posted on 01/20/2016 2:09:17 PM PST by Trumpinator
In Roman Britain the weather was warmer than it is now, and this warmer climate allowed extensive vine growing throughout Britain's Roman period, and for a long time after. By 1086 when the Domesday survey was carried out there were thirty nine vineyards officially recorded in England, although the actual figure may have been much higher. Then temperatures began to drop in the second half of the sixteenth century causing a retreat of vine growing from the north and east of Europe.
(Excerpt) Read more at infobritain.co.uk ...
This example from recent (just 400 years ago is nothing in human timelines) shows how much natural temperature variation has happened. We are actually getting out of a mini-ice age and returning to the way temperature existed in the time of the Roman empire.
That could explain the advance and retreat of those pesky glaciers......
Further west wasn’t named “Greenland” on a lark either...
It is right there in history. The time of the Roman empire was before industrialization. If we return to the climate of that era then we are returning to “normal” are we not?
Greenland was warm enough to graze and farm. The Vikings left because by 1400s it got too cold to live there for anyone except the Inuit. If we return to the weather conditions that existed in pre-industrial age Viking times then its the real normal climate weather is it not?
There is a lot of wine grown in upstate NY today and nobody would call that area warm so I imagine grapes could still be grown in the UK if there was any desire to do so.
Damn close. Where the Bristlecones grow in the White-Inyo range there are dead ones above the live line by about 1500-2000 feet IIRC. Baby ones are starting to sprout and grow above the current mature line. The dead ones were growing to old age (~2500-5000 years) in a significantly warmer climate as I see it.
http://a.wholelottanothing.org/2011/03/north-america-western-europe-equivalent-latitude-maps.html
That could explain the advance of those pesky mosquitos......
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No s—t, Sherlock.
Yea, but there’s no money in natural cycles. Liberals hate nature.
Was that called for?
Sorry, I didn’t mean you personally. Just a general statement that the fact that it isn’t man-made should be pretty obvious.
The latitude has not changed over the years, my only point is that if grapes can be grown in frigid parts of NY they could be grown in the UK if anyone wanted to. And yes, I agree the climate was warmer at times in the past.
New York is on the same lat as France.
When the dinosaurs roamed the Earth, for hundreds of millions of years, there was no ice at the poles.
The combination of the formation of the Himalayas (accelerated weathering to take CO2 out of the atmosphere) and separation of South America from Antarctica (so the polar currents formed, trapping cold air there, turning it into an ice box) both made the world cool significantly starting 40 million years ago.
Ice ages are an aberration over most of Earth’s 4.5 billion year history.
Comparing the weather over there with the weather over here is more than a function of latitude.
Europe also benefits from the Gulf Stream.
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