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New York Values beat Southern Values: Less divorce rate than south (even counting Trump's divorces)
huffingtonpost.com ^ | 09/05/2013 6:05 pm EDT | huffingtonpost.com

Posted on 01/15/2016 6:18:18 AM PST by Trumpinator

Just having a little fun at Cruz's expense but his talk about New York values is a little stupid.

New York - be it the city or the state or the tri-state area (NJ, CT and sometimes PA) is pretty conservative in a lot of things. For example, there is less out of wedlock births and less crime than many cities in the so called south these days and if you want to judge by divorce rates, NY and NJ rank at last while 'traditional values' states rank the highest.

Texas is one of the leading divorce rates states.

Click link to see chart. Trump 2016

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To: Night Hides Not

It is not about the media, but voters.


101 posted on 01/15/2016 7:35:22 AM PST by TornadoAlley3 (I like Trump and Cruz. Leave me the heck alone.)
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To: CatherineofAragon

Great...thanks for the link!


102 posted on 01/15/2016 7:35:25 AM PST by halo66
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To: halo66

I believe he has admitted to all that he was in 1999. Now in 2016, he believes differently.


103 posted on 01/15/2016 7:36:57 AM PST by TornadoAlley3 (I like Trump and Cruz. Leave me the heck alone.)
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To: halo66

Trump needs to ask for forgiveness! - why? in 1999 He is not getting an abortion and he says he hates the concept of it.


104 posted on 01/15/2016 7:37:11 AM PST by Trumpinator ("Are you Batman?" the boy asked. "I am Batman," Trump said.)
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To: halo66

Anytime


105 posted on 01/15/2016 7:37:37 AM PST by CatherineofAragon ("Ted Cruz is the type of guy to swim across a moat with a knife in his teeth. He knows how to fight")
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To: Texicanus

“Why apologize to people that would have never voted for him in the first place”

Because the narrative of Cruz slapping the “values” (note this is a vague word that was not clearly qualified) of a “New York” and then having the people there showcase their collective response to 9-11 as what they consider their values as being was an effective kill-shot that can and will tar him in places that would have voted for him.

People on FR desperately looking for negative stuff to back up Cruz (or at least think they are), is only reinforcing a flub after the battle is already lost, and is only helping make NYC into the “victim” of an unprovoked swipe.

“Ted can’t compromise his values or opinions for the sake of political correctness to satisfy the majority of New York liberals”

Making a poorly-deviled statement is not a “value”.

“So what if they are offended”

When the media that reside in NYC own more ink than God, giving them a target that benefits you in no way to stand by, is a sure way to get demolished.

“You can’t be a true conservative and support liberal values”

Which has nothing o do with this.

“Texans elected him to the Senate...”

He isnt running for the Senate in Texas.

“So give’em hell Ted and may the force be with you.”

Charge of the light brigade 2: This time maybe the bullets will miss!?


106 posted on 01/15/2016 7:40:04 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: Trumpinator

So he speaks out of moth sides of his mouth...and that is okay with you? Pathetic! It’s like him saying “I really don’t like the notion of people coming here illegally, but I don’t support building a wall...you know I was raised in New York”


107 posted on 01/15/2016 7:41:45 AM PST by halo66
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To: TornadoAlley3
"I can be critical of liberals and not an entire state of people. "

You've already been told Cruz was talking specifically about NYC. So you might as well not sit there and preach about God while you're persisting in a lie.

"I love visiting NYC. Cruz will beg for forgiveness. Apology will be accepted and this will all be forgotten next week."

So you want a Constitutional conservative to "beg forgiveness" from liberals?

Yeah, you're like something I scrape off the bottom of my shoe. You're dismissed.

108 posted on 01/15/2016 7:42:11 AM PST by CatherineofAragon ("Ted Cruz is the type of guy to swim across a moat with a knife in his teeth. He knows how to fight")
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To: VanDeKoik
These people control 99% of the media in this nation,

And therein lies the vast bulk of the problem.

Nothing gets to the American people unless it goes through a Liberal New York Democrat Union member filter. If they don't approve it, it doesn't get heard.

This Liberal monopoly of access to the public is the primary cause of what is wrong in this nation.

109 posted on 01/15/2016 7:42:31 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Trumpinator

Sorry, don’t do HuffPo.


110 posted on 01/15/2016 7:43:45 AM PST by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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To: Trumpinator
Prove it with statistics. South seems to violate a lot of commandments. The top murder states seem to be in the south.

NATIONWIDE MURDER RATES

BY 2014 RANK, HIGHEST TO LOWEST (other years shown for comparison) MURDER RATES PER 100,000 PEOPLE

An ugly truth that most people want to ignore is that about 3% of the national population known as "young black males" account for 40% of the murders, rapes, robberies and thefts.

I believe it was Charles Murray (The Bell Curve) who pointed out that if you remove minorities from the crime statistics, our crime rates are actually lower than Sweden.

111 posted on 01/15/2016 7:45:26 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: CatherineofAragon
Why such ugly personal attacks at me? I was not rude to you. I read the transcript of what Ted said. I do not believe it was a smart thing to say. You disagree, that is fine. I respect that. Ted will apologize. It will be ok.
112 posted on 01/15/2016 7:46:32 AM PST by TornadoAlley3 (I like Trump and Cruz. Leave me the heck alone.)
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To: Trumpinator

That’s because we don’t get married in ny.


113 posted on 01/15/2016 7:47:36 AM PST by Ted Grant
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To: Trumpinator

There are typically 4-10 times the percentage black population in southern states versus northern or western states

Blacks who do marry divorce at 2-3 times white rate

That is the issue right there

One big difference in general is marriage rate period

Folks marry down here more but admittedly it has fallen off sharply amongst poorer whites and hipsters

It will not end well


114 posted on 01/15/2016 7:51:11 AM PST by wardaddy (Save western civilization and save the world....lose it & it's a dark ages unknown to human history)
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To: Trumpinator
Like South Chicago?

Does Maryland (Baltimore) count as "Southern" now that we're not discussing the War Between the States?

How about St. Louis?

Someone just might be mistaking the actions of a specific demographic for the actions of an entire region.

115 posted on 01/15/2016 7:52:25 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: halo66

Pathetic is using something from almost 20 years ago when modern day Trump has said he is now firmly against abortion. And by the way - Ronald Reagan legalized abortion in California before Roe V Wade.


116 posted on 01/15/2016 7:56:16 AM PST by Trumpinator ("Are you Batman?" the boy asked. "I am Batman," Trump said.)
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To: Trumpinator
the Dirty South made it dirty.

Compton?

117 posted on 01/15/2016 7:56:58 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: wardaddy

So Southern values can’t cure that? Jesus can cure anything but blacks?


118 posted on 01/15/2016 7:57:15 AM PST by Trumpinator ("Are you Batman?" the boy asked. "I am Batman," Trump said.)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Below is all I really need to know about New York values:

New York
RECENT ELECTIONS

2012
Dem Repub
63.3% 35.2%

2008
62.8% 36.1%

2004
57.9% 39.8%

2000
57.8% 33.1%

1996
57.8% 27.5%

NEW YORK VOTING HISTORY

Last 10 Elections Electoral College
1976
D
1980
R
1984
R
1988
D
1992
D
1996
D
2000
D
2004
D
2008
D
2012
D


119 posted on 01/15/2016 7:58:05 AM PST by thinkthenpost
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To: VanDeKoik
Most people in this country voted for Obama twice.

Most of the people who voted (even twice or more) is still not most of the people.

120 posted on 01/15/2016 7:58:46 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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